Death Battle Predictions: John Constantine vs The Doctor
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"For the supernatural, entering a human soul, opens to it new possibilities of both good and evil. From that point the road branches: one way to sanctity, love, humility, the other to spiritual pride, self-righteousness, persecuting zeal. And no way back to the mere humdrum virtues and vices of the un-awakened soul. If the Divine call does not make us better, it will make us very much worse."
C.S Lewis
Both of these characters have been around for a long time, with many backstories and conflicting information. For this matchup I will be examining all media focusing on them, though with Constantine the original comics take precedence, with the various DCU Animated Movies, the 2005 movie Constantine, the CW's Arrowverse, and the live action Sandman Netflix series not being included
Constantine's comic book canon is difficult to fully streamline. First appearing in Alan Moore's Swamp Thing comic series, I will be examining all his appearances since then, from the Swamp Thing series itself, to the subsequent Hellblazer comic series, The Sandman and Lucifer comic series, the Justice League Dark comic series, and so on, up to the recently released Dead in America series. Be advised, Constantine's original 80's and 90's series is usually written as standalone from the main DC continuity, and his appearances within it and his later Justice League Dark series are markedly different, as are the cosmologies that are used within.
The Doctor Who canon is essentially everything published. This includes the TV series (the 1963-1989 original, the 1996 TV movie, the 2005 revival, The Sarah Jane Adventures, Torchwood, Class, et al.), the TV series' novelisations, the various comic and graphic novels, including those published within Doctor Who Magazine and Doctor Who Adventures, the Big Finish Audio Productions, the one-off webcasts and animated episodes like Scream of the Shalka and Death Comes to Time, the Virgin New Adventures and Missing Adventures novel series, the additional novel series from the Revival Era, the Doctor Who Experience exhibition, and the Faction Paradox series. I will also be including crossover material from such anthologies as The Book of the Snowstorm, which links standard Doctor Who canon to both the Jenny Everywhere series and The Crew of the Copper Coloured Cupids blog.
Be aware that since Doctor Who is over 60 years old with literally thousands of stories backing it up, there will undoubtably be some things I've missed. Also, fans of the G1 Blog will find that there are some items and abilities of the Doctor that I have skimmed over. This is due both to the fact that there is just too much to cover for me to list every single ability of, say, the Sonic Screwdriver, and the fact that, since Constantine is not a technology user like the Doctor, much of the Screwdriver's normal uses will be redundant here.
Fair warning for John Constantine being... well... Constantine. His series is dark, graphic, and violent.
As a final disclaimer, several of the links are to galleries of images rather than just one image. Towards the end of making this blog, burnout was a thing so I was more focused on getting it all done rather than individually moving each link to each correct word.
John Constantine
Look up in the sky, you'll see a Superman waving to you. Look into the shadows, you'll find a Batman there to comfort you as you cry. Look for the truth, and you'll know that a Woman of Wonder loves you and wishes you joy. Look into the fires of the abyss, and there'll be a Brit in a trenchoat lighting his cigarette. He'll watch you stare with both the urge to flee and to fall further in, and John Constantine will laugh either way.
Despite looking surprisingly chipper for a guy in his 60's, Constantine's life is anything but healthy. After strangling his twin brother in the womb, losing his parents in a house fire due to his desire to learn the secrets of magic, and coercing his former friends into selling their souls to oblivion for the thrill of sorcery's rhythm, John became a lonely wanderer, his selfish desire to survive always at odds with his desperation to achieve some real good for once in his life.
And some good he would achieve. For while Constantine is a terrible friend, he found himself to be an effective mentor. Upon finding Swamp Thing testing his newfound connection to the Green, he would teach him to harness his abilities and experience the cycles of evil and good within the world, all to prepare him for the Great Darkness rising from the ocean beyond Hell. ONce he was done with those, he found himself coaching a young Timothy Hunter, destined to become the greatest sorcerer in the world, determined to make him a force for good and not the evil that would bring an end to magic itself.
Though he may be damned thrice over to Hell, he has clawed his way through the darkness long enough to enjoy time in the warmth of the fellowship of the Justice League, the Justice League Dark of magic, and the Trenchcoat Brigade. And even death is not the end for his story. For the simplest trick John has mastered is the most useful. The disappearing act.
The Doctor
When the skies are burning and fire falls upon cities made of song, there is the wheezing groan of a little blue box, and who should leave it but a funny little man in a strange outfit? A man with a grin on his face as he stares down armageddon with just a screwdriver in his hand. One of these days, you expect to hear that story end in defeat. But it never does. Even when defeat is found, it is not at the end. For that is not how the Doctor lets it happen.
Intelligence and Skill
Considering the amount of tight spots the Hellraiser finds himself in, it's no surprise that there are a few occasions where fisticuffs become necessary. While Constantine is by his admission rather lacking physically, he has still survived scrapes against mobs, demons, and angry prisoners. His ability to survive usually comes with a proclivity to fight dirty though, particularly with nut shots.
Despite his persona being a lazy, selfish drunkard, he is very well read, having learnt all he can from all the darkest books of magic, knowing much of the occult and how to combine spells into ones of his own creation and is considered one of the strongest wielders of magic in the world. He was the one who mentored Swamp Thing on evil to that he would be able to pacify the Great Darkness, and is well renowned even by sorcerers as advanced as Zatanna, Zatarra, and Doctor Fate. His natural talent is able to learn Zatanna's backwards magic through hearing her talk in her sleep, while Zatanna required years of training to make it work for her, and has created complex plans and adapted them on the fly. His knowledge has also gained him insight on various heroes' powers and effective counter-measures.
His wit and ability has earned him the personal hatred of virtually every demon in Hell, even the First of the Fallen, the one Lucifer Morningstar was second to, deeming Constantine his ultimate adversary. His reputation was enough to immediately stop an army of demons in their tracks, and it is whispered that demons of hell only stop their torture sessions long enough to curse John's name. He has talked himself out of being damned more than once, tricked Hell into crashing its stock market, tracked down a serial killer that had evaded police for years, and most famously, tricked three demons who had laid claim to his soul into both curing his lung cancer and keeping him out of Hell indefinitely, before convincing God himself to cancel the deal. And ironically, despite his proclivity to burn through relationships, he has considerable charisma, capable of immediately getting police officers to answer to him and making people like him on instinct, or having a man kill himself just by talking to him.
Though always unarmed, the Doctor is no stranger to fighting. He has trained with both Bruce Lee and Muhammed Ali, being trained in Venusian Aikido and Karate, Boxing, Kung Fu, Judo, and pressure point attacks. His skill has allowed him to defeat other martial artists like the Master, take down five assailants while dodging their tranquilizer darts, fend off assassins, and even overcome a fellow Time Lord who could see the future and predict his moves. He is also an adept swordsman, having trained with the best swordsmen in Earth's history, defeated a Musketeer, held his own against the goddess Kali despite being outnumbered three-to-one, and fought with a swordfish. And despite despising guns he is a crack shot, possessing enough precision to shoot bullets out of the air and easily disarm those holding him at gunpoint. If he doesn't make do with a spear or trident. Coupled with his mastery of escape artistry, pickpocketing, and lock-picking, he is surprisingly stealthy when required, able to sneak through a Dalek ship completely undetected.
His strategy skills are unmatched as well; even when deliberately reducing his capabilities to a human level, he can rapidly analyse every move and chance of an enemy and make thousands of calculations within nanoseconds. He has defeated Daleks across countless battles and wars, Daleks knowing every battle tactic and manoeuvre in history and being able to adapt to any scenario in microseconds. He has routinely outwitted Elder Gods and Celestial beings, tricked and crashed supercomputers capable of processing entire galaxies of information in battles of processing power, and was impossible to predict by the Possibility Engine's scanning of millions of possible timelines; a master of both improvisation and manipulating others, rapidly creating plans to escape deadly situations and defeat multiverse devourers. But when he plans, he can bring down governments, cults, gods, demons and reality warpers through mind-bending complexity. He survived three assassination attempts in less than a minute without the slightest difficulty, and instantly calculated a complex series of chances to prevent a piano crushing a woman and her baby with nothing but a cricket ball despite being just a human at the time.
The Doctor's greatest gift is his intelligence, one extending beyond four dimensions. He is an expert on virtually every form of science (to the point where he could rewrite the laws of physics and turn fiction into reality), history, psychology, mathematics, and engineering that exists throughout the universe. His has absorbed the location and movement of 20,000 satellites in Earth's orbit within seconds, calculated every probability of a card game to win every round and effortlessly alter equations complex enough to build universes from scratch. With knowledge that spans galaxies and millions of years, and information on millions of universes, he can stabilize biological weapons, build advanced machines and temporal devices out of junk all within minutes, regularly outwitting his own people, who only consider polymaths of every subject known to be contemporaries. Time Lords are taught from childhood to know billions of languages, universal knowledge, and the equations governing causality and block transfer, which is living mathematics. They are also skilled enough to instantly read someone's entire personality with a glance, Sherlock style.
Equipment/Arsenal
Constantine
A standard go-to revolver, bought on the black market and loaded in a park's public toilet. Nothing special, but still pretty useful in a bind with regular humans.
Created from the metals of both Heaven and Hell and reinforced with the ivory of saints, the Ace of Winchester was created to end the atrocities sweeping across the American Frontier. Put simply, it can destroy demons, blasting away their very life-force.
Apart from giving him lung cancer, his cigarettes don't usually provide him anything other than his rough look, but on occasion they have acted as a powerful magical ward.
Self-explanatory. Stolen from the Black Room, it is meant to seal fairies, but works equally well on trolls too. It is capable of shrinking its intended target to fit in the palm of a hand.
A blade that changes shape with the phases of the Moon, becoming a sword when the Moon is full and a dagger when it is new. The Moonblade can hold souls, thoughts, dreams, even concepts, and is purportedly capable of killing just about anything.
The Twinblade
While a normal analogue watch in appearance, John can use it alongside his blood to briefly stop time, though it apparently can only be used once.
Tuning Fork
Not much is known about this fork, other than its vibrations are powerful enough to shatter stone and explode people's heads. Which is neat.
An ordinary looking knife, but it's magic is potent enough to burn demons and turn their bodies to charred husks.
Gifted to him by Giovanni Zatara, the key can be used to open virtually any lock, even barriers to higher dimensions such as the Rot and entirely separate multiverses, most notably when John used it to access the Otherplace, the opposite of the Collective Unconscious within the Dark Multiverse.
Druid Blood
In a very enjoyable game of chance, John won a pint of druid blood. With it, he can cast the Wood Walk, a way to navigate the higher/extra-dimensional realm of the Green without danger of getting lost or consumed, both as an escape route and a trap.
Wishing Matches
The Doctor
Wardrobe
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| From "The Doctor's Wardrobe" |
The Doctor always wants to look his best, no matter what the occasion. Outside of style though, his outfits are quite practical, including pockets that are bigger on the outside, a cloaking mechanism that can hide time sensitives from the senses of a Lamprey, some with fire and water-proofing, and even has several spacesuits.
Signet Ring
Perception Filter
Amaranth
A Time Lord device built to combat leftovers of the Dark Times universe. The amaranth looks for irrational aspects/powers such as magic and counters it with the user's willpower and reason, re-ordering reality around it through quantum processes into something more rational and logical, healing targets of irrational madness. It is potent enough to reconfigure entire timelines and the most incomprehensible energies, and when it cannot do that, it can perform an emergency teleport that transports the user to a more rational location.
When the Daleks conquered 1960's Britain, the changes to the timeline caused Amy Pond from 2012 to start to fade from existence. The Doctor used the Chronon Blocker to slow down the erasure while he worked to undo the changes.
Psilent Songbox
A Time Lord weapon, the Songbox can collapse infinite timelines around it in a chronal meltdown, create paradoxes that can rip the universe apart, and warp reality. The War Doctor would've used it to remove a race of higher-dimensional gods by manipulating the Collective Unconscious of an entire alien race, removing their belief and faith in higher powers and gods so to banish their Cyclor gods to a higher Nirvana, "deicide via ascension". He also used it to create the Then-And-The-Now alongside a Chronon Tracker, a hole in space-time. (See Support section for more details).
The go-to multitool for a pacifist fixer, the Sonic Screwdriver is a master of harmless help, primarily used to interact with technology, even those of teleportation and time travel.
The Sonic Screwdriver has undergone many variations and models, but they all possess the same abilities, primarily the ability to hack virtually any technology and break any lock (unless it's made of wood). The Screwdriver has a built-in Cyber AI that prevents others from using it, and can remotely summon the TARDIS to the Doctor's location, even from within a time lock. Being Gallifreyan in origin, it does not follow linear chronology, as destroying the present screwdriver will not prevent its past self from working fine.... in the future.
It is capable of becoming a weapon of deadly power, the Doctor deliberately refraining from using its true capabilities. Still, even when not using it as a gun, it can instantly hack and/or dismantle virtually any form of machinery with ease, track and detect DNA, neurons, higher dimensional energies, and objects through or outside of time, and extract sentient bombs. It can also affect minds on some level, emitting microwaves that tricked a group of Time Lord instincts into believing he wasn't there against all reason and vibrating brains to wipe memories.
- Power Nullification: Could cut off the Nestene Consciousness' thought control, create a forcefield that prevented psychic attacks, jam a sand monster's telekinesis, and has negated forcefields and intangibility.
- Sonic Manipulation: Can create ear-splitting sonic pulses that can shatter swords and incapacitate enemies, cancel out soundwaves, create sonic force-fields that block attacks or redirect bullets, and disarm foes of weapons
- Matter Manipulation: The Screwdriver can vibrate matter to resonate concrete, weaken atomic bonds, paralyze humans, freeze an incoming tsunami, crystallize atmospheric particles to make it rain, attract time particles, blow doors off their hinges, and fry a brain with the right frequency.
- Energy Manipulation/Absorption: It has created hard-light forcefields and electrical barriers, fired energy blasts, absorbed and channelled laser beams, and reflected energy attacks back at the caster. It has also on occasion drained energy from weapons, once even drawing back the Doctor's life-force to him.
- Space-Time/Reality Manipulation: The Screwdriver has sealed rifts in space-time, frozen time, shattered sealing barriers than turned him 2D and frozen others in time, breached time locks, and temporarily threw back the Vortex Butterfly, a being empowered by the Time Vortex. He has also used it to disrupt the extra-dimensional senses of Void dwellers, a realm composed of energies of unreality, as he can bolster its effects to go beyond spatial coordinates and track objects through time.
- Sealing: The Scredriver can emit stasis beams that prevent both time travel and teleportation.
- Telekinesis: It can move objects and people on occasion, even other powerful reality warpers
- Possible Teleportation: While the Doctor has hacked teleportation tech in the past, it is possible that the Screwdriver can act as its own teleporter, though it is also possible the Doctor merely hacked into the Nin's own teleporter and used it on himself.
Stolen from Davros on Skaro, the Doctor used it to save a young version of Davros from a minefield.
Current Dalek gunsticks are particle beams, which are a step up from disruptors, which can break down the cohesion of matter. The typical gunstick has three standard settings, allowing for the firing of poison gas, high intensity X-rays, and neutronic energy. The gunstick possesses electrical properties, allowing its energy to travel through water and metal to electrocute groups of enemies. At full power, the gunstick can atomise humans and generate enough energy to light up New York for a year, but the setting can be reduced to temporalily induce paralysis, stun targets, or changed to fire cryo-spray. It has also destroyed Dalek armour on occasion, up to entire squadrons being one-shot, despite said armour possessing self-repair abilities.
Some gunsticks have unique variations, such as acting as a matter transporter or being imbued with the energy of the Void Between Universes, becoming capable of ripping apart TARDISes chronon by chronon. In general, the gunstick is the deadliest portable weapon in the universe outside of the Omega Arsenal.
Ice Cannon
Rather self-explanatory, the cannon can temporarily damage the Hyperios, who are sentient supernovas.
A hastily constructed weapon created to counter a Cyberman invasion, the Dimension Vault can create skyscraper sized portals around a target to banish them to the Time Vortex. Exposure to the Vortex instantly kills most beings, erasing them from reality and scattering their fragments across all of time as the very laws of physics break down and their remains are reduced to mathematical components.
One of the most feared weapons of the Time Lords, the De-materialization Gun is a weapon held in reserve for only the most desperate situations. To use the weapon is to do far more than kill an opponent. Upon hitting a target, the gun analyses the target's timeline and sends the information to a quantum computer that then remodels all of creation to not include the target. To be "built out molecules the universe doesn't remember is harm enough..... there's no gap in the air to stand, no spare molecules to breathe, no history to demand action and no present in which to act..... The victim has no hands. The victim has no eyes....Some cultures talk of weapons that eat the soul. Only one built a weapon that ate everything except the soul, and spat it out, alone, naked, and shivering."
Simply put, the gun completely erases the target from time and existence, dematerializing them the same way a TARDIS moves without calculating how to re-materialize them afterwards. The effect of this weapon prevents said erasure from ever being undone and can cause temporal tsunamis within the Time Vortex. Similar weapons like the Dalek's Temporal Cannon and the Gauntlet of Rassilon were shown to be effective on other Time Lords, who can normally resist temporal erasure, and on TARDISes that exist outside of chronology altogether.
However, its effect is too potent in some cases, preventing one from firing it more than once without falling unconscious and developing temporary amnesia. As a result, it was originally locked away within the Vaults and only the Sash of Rassilon was able to unlock it.
Time-Gun of Rassilon
Altering the crystals can allow the Doctor to skip ahead 10 seconds in time, rendering himself unreachable to enemy attacks while leaving a hologram of him in his place to act normally and fool unwary foes.
While on Gallifrey they were used to create paintings, Stasis Cubes can freeze environments in pocket dimensions and suspend them in time. Working together with his other incarnations, the Doctor froze the planet of Gallifrey in an instant of time outside the universe.
Rassilon Prison Cube
A prison pocket dimension capable of holding entire solar systems of criminals. The Doctor once spent six months in one before escaping, and kept the cube with him in the TARDIS.
Quantum Wave Projector
A masterpiece of engineering, the Projector may be large and unwieldy, but it can reflect reality warping waves from the Morlontoa, an unreal form that stretched across entire dimensions and overpowered the living symbols of the Sisterhood of Karn by unleashing a wave of pure Reason. It does take time to get it to work, however.
The TARDIS
- Temporal Grace: The Temporal Grace exists to prevent any violence from occurring within the TARDIS, disabling weapons, nullifying powers, and immobilizing targets within stasis fields, even Elder Gods like Eidolon. It also acts to hold its occupants together against the worst damage, even stretching out time to turn seconds outside into minutes inside and protect the exterior from damage, giving the occupants more time to plan.
- Time Manipulation: Aside from time travel, the TARDIS has accelerated and reversed time across a planet and its interior, placed itself constantly one milisecond in the future, created temporal minefields that rapidly age or de-age targets, trapped objects in time loops, teleport targets back in time, open portals to the Time Vortex, go out of sync with time, stop it altogether and harness the temporal energy of the Vortex. Even its lamp can protect one from unstable time.
- Dimensional Travel: Thanks to its metaphysical engine, it can travel into potential futures, places outside of standard time or between time periods, higher planes of existence, simulated dreams, conceptual space, worlds of pure informational data, fictional universes within a book, the void of nothing between all universes, before the Big Bang, people's minds, alternate dimensions, sentient minds, the Astral Plane within the Vortex, and areas out of sync with time. It was originally capable of easily travelling across the entire omniverse before the Time War sealed the barriers between universes, though it has managed to do this repeatedly even after the war.
- Phasing and Power Negation: The TARDIS can phase through matter, land in the Nihilism Chamber cut off from all outside sources, bypass virtually every barrier of every conceivable concept and "then a bit further", and get through Gallifrey's Transduction Barriers, which warp all 11 layers of space-time; the first barrier can tear apart atoms, while the others attack on a conceptual level and the quantum barrier is strengthened by any attack against it
- Size Manipulation: Due to its physical dimensions merely being a projection for limited minds to make sense of, the TARDIS can alter its exterior size to any size, shrinking small enough to enter sub-atomic universes & quantum apertures a few Planck lengths wide, or growing large enough to surround entire planets and galaxies or even the 11-dimensional Toyroom. It can even become a thought in someone's mind to hide itself.
- Scanning: The TARDIS can scan areas a billion light years in radius and 12 dimensions, read a planets entire timeline, trace a timeline of energy and informational beings from the beginning to the end of time, monitor thousands of planets' worth of secret communication, and see every conceivable future. She is also superior to early TARDISes who could see the entire universe all at once and N-Forms who could view entire galaxies.
- Sealing/BFR: It can cast off sections of itself into the Void Between Universes, trap intruders in an endless maze/time loop, place targets in two time zones at the same time to rip them apart physically, trap intruders in forcefields and eject them, contained the Vashta Nerada, thrown objects into Hilbert Space, banished creatures back to their lower dimensions, collapse wormholes, and seal the Vortex Butterfly within a 5th dimensional prison planet.
- Non-Physical Interaction/Conceptual Manipulation: The TARDIS worked in tandem with several WarTARDISes to sever Mictlan, a conceptual universe, from the main universe, while also damaging the Memeovore consuming it, a devourer of meaning and concepts. It has contained the Shift, another conceptual entity, and rewritten the "pure meaning" of biodata.
- Dimensional/Space Manipulation: A TARDIS can alter dimensional space around it, opening and closing holes in reality while turning turning 3D entities back to 2D. A prototype TARDIS channelled the Void to draw all creation into itself.
- Probability/Fate Manipulation: A TARDIS's temporal field can be used to alter probability to find the most desirable outcome and make it happen. Similarly, a TARDIS can destroy, nullify, and create time paradoxes, even one of the Doctor's death
- Healing: The TARDIS's temporal grace not only slows the aging of its users, but can hold their body together physically when its breaking down, use healing nanites to repair injuries, and send them to the zero room to rejuvenate their mind or to the Cell Regeneration Vault that can reverse genetic damage. It has also extracted biodata viruses, which affect every facet of one's existence.
- Energy Absorption: It can refuel itself by draining ambient energy from virtually any source, including life-forces/Artron Energy, ideas, and anti-time, as well as normal temporal energy, and radiation.
- Creation: The TARDIS can create any machine the user desires from nothing and evolve it far past its current capabilities
Being remarkable versatile in taking what it dishes out is the final gift of the TARDIS. She has resisted everything from tractor beams, teleportation, theft, psychic attacks, and possession to universal entropy, black holes, a Time Destructor, and the nature of the Time Vortex and the Void, realms where all physics, concepts, principles, and energies break down. Oh, and due to her acausal nature, she is remarkably difficult to scan, trace, or predict.
Miscellaneous Items
- Nitro 9: A powerful explosive capable of measuring a 9 on the Richter scale
Umbrella: Capable of protecting from acid rain and lava storms, and contains knockout gas - Grenades and Bombs:
- Omni-fracture Grenade: A grenade powerful to rip apart Daleks and then put the remains in a temporal phase shift to prevent them from regenerating.
- Temporal Shock Grenade: Hand-made grenade to seal rifts in the Time Vortex.
- Time Bomb: Rapidly ages any target caught in the blast zone.
- Neutron Star Bomb: Temporarily warps space-time with neutron star gravity to utterly eradicate targets.
- Dimensional Shift Bomb: Sends particles to another plane.
- Laser Screwdriver: Another toy of the Master, the Laser Screwdriver fires deadly lasers that at maximum intensity can prevent Time Lords from regenerating
- The Vindicator: Possesses the power of one billion supernovas
- Blade of Sir Justin: A sword that was used by the knight Sir Justin to slay the demon Melanicus
- Owse the Jellyfish: A jellyfish from a planet on the edge of a temporal rift that can detect incoming reality shifts
- Uxaerian Doomsday Particles: Used as a micron thin sythe that could bisect Daleks and Dalek Saucers
- Sonic Earmuffs: Protect the user from telepathic attacks
- Reality Inhibitor: A dodecahedron that prevents reality/his timeline from being altered around him by increasing the local reality quotient
- Hazandra Gemstone: Forged from a red hole, its onboard computer intuits what you want and draws power from a star to make it happen, including granting superpowers
- The Sword of Time: A crude method of space-time travel, the sword can cut holes in the Time Vortex
- Viruses and Poisons: The War Doctor created a virus that wiped out everyone who wasn't an adult, while the Eighth Doctor possessed anti-vampire poison that could damage human cells
- Dwarf Star Chains: Forged in the star's core, the chains are unbreakable and were used to eternally imprison Father of Mine
- Chronon Mine that can send enemies back in time, even before the Big Bang itself. A variant of them could send enemies billions of years into the future.
- Pendant that keeps him 10 nanoseconds ahead of opponents
- Solid hologram projector
- Grappling hook that can phase through matter
- Transmat to send things to TARDIS prison cell
- Nanite teleporters to send someone back to the Shadow Dimension
- An army of robots that laid waste to London
In the beginning, the Hand of Perpetua reached down and spun the multiverse into being. Underlying that multiverse were the Seven Forces of Creation, two of them being Magic and the Mind. Coalescing into one, the goddess Hecate spun the Sphere of the Gods and the Collective Unconscious into where these powers could be used for creation. Believe you are more and you will become more, for magic is not created by its users, only channelled and a song of power the universe sings to balance itself against the darkness.
Magic is channelled from the Sphere of the Gods and the Collective Unconscious, where Platonic forms and Archetypes reside, thought, matter, mind and manifestation becoming one in a realm beyond space, time, and physicality. If one wishes to take what they want by force, Crisis Chaos Magic can force existence to bend to you. Otherwise, you can trick the universe into handing over what you want without putting in the work. Magic is both Crisis and Anti-Crisis power, drawn directly from the Source. And just how the Sphere is composed of aspects necessary to existence, its power is necessary to stabilize reality; without magic, all creation would collapse. As one of the Seven Forces of Creation, it has an opposite in the Void Wind.
Arcana of the Fool
The power of belief is potent and vital to effectively casting magic, as technically, no-one possesses power in magic, only ability in being a conduit for it. Through sheer force of will, Constantine has negated impalement by refusing to accept it, and has made normal objects magical by believing that they were always magical. Together with the Justice League Dark, Constantine empowered himself enough to contend with the Upside-Down Man by believing in their own ability to overcome the impossible, though this didn't last long.
There are multiple ways to channel magic. After receiving a transfusion of demon blood from Nergal, John can invoke the powers of the dark realms to great effect at the risk of his soul being corrupted. Demon blood is potent enough to heal others of injuries, slow aging, prevent reattachment of his limbs and burn through vampires attempting to consume it. It also acts as a danger sense that helps John detect evil.
By using the power of his personality, his own pain, sources of belief, or just by deciding to believe in himself for once, John can greatly increase his own magical potency/physical strength. Any damage and pain he suffers will only add to his magic, but with external beliefs he usually uses a physical item as aid, such as when he gained power from people's belief in the hope of Christmas by snorting St Nicholas' bone dust.
When direct combat is required, John has magical shields, deadly beams and concussive blasts to call on, blinding light to the point of creating a miniature sun, and energy constructs to use as platforms for travelling across both physical gaps or across dimensions.
John can wield the elements offensively, blasting bolts of lightning, form weapons from electricity, and freeze targets in ice. He is particularly skilled in fire, creating fire from his lighter, drawing pictures using flames, or just blasting it from his hands like a flamethrower.
Constantine's magic has repeatedly hidden him and others from prying eyes. Apart from turning himself invisible, he can hide his scent, sound, and soul, and has prevented powerful Hell Lords such as the First of the Fallen and even Darkseid from immediately perceiving him. He has also managed to sneak his way around the Batcave's defences and Nightwing without being noticed until he wanted to be. This is notable given Nightwing has detected ambushes from other stealthy vigilantes like Huntress, and has snuck around Batman even when he had Superman's powers. Batman himself has snuck around the entire Justice League by himself more than once.
A trademark trick of Constantine. Constantine has cut Swamp Thing off from the Green, shredded multiple magic wards, cut off the power supplies of both sorcerers and gods (by moving it somewhere else), and even briefly drained Superman of his strength with his defensive wards. On the opposite end, he was able to restore a portion of Swamp Thing's power after another had cut him off from the Green.
Binding
Another means of incapacitation; John has utilized multiple methods of immobilizing opponents, whether through chains, magic circles, paralysis spells, or stasis fields. When he plugged his binding spell into one of the dying hearts of magic, he was able to restrain Hecate, the source of magic and the Collective Unconscious, despite Hecate's mere presence rewriting magic under her feet. The magic also works fast enough to incapacitate the Flash.
Sealing
Self-explanatory. Handy for a quick escape. John has teleported into higher dimensions such as the Green, even as a weakened spirit. He has also teleported the bullets out of a gun. With Wave Synchronicity, John can passively teleport without him even noticing the passage of time or of even needing to choose his destination, the ability taking him wherever he needs to be.
John is highly versatile with creating portals. He has opened portals to transcendent dimensions like Heaven, Hell, the Elemental Realms, and the Between Realm between universes. He has done this even when magic had been temporarily removed from the world, and his portals can transport multiple people simultaneously, even entire armies. With Nightmare Nurse's bond to him, he teleported out of the Between, where the "World of Forms empties out into the Great Void."
John is more than capable of altering time, having travelled to the past. He has also altered a time travel spell mid-effect to transport him to where he wanted.
Banishing is also a good trick. John has banished Skeletor (of all people), cast an entire army onto another planet, hidden a house within a spatial misdirect, threw one of Blight's minions into a portal elsewhere, and cast an incoming sword into another dimension to prevent it from hitting him.
Metamancy
John has often dabbled with the souls of others, as they exist as a form of currency to perform powerful magic. While John is usually limited to his own soul, he has summoned armies of souls from nothing, and can manipulate cities of souls when in close proximity, though this often requires time and preparation.
John has affected the souls of others in various ways, such as when he tied his father's life force to that of a dying cat's, forcing him to endure a slow and painful death. He has carved wards onto souls to protect them from demonic influence, and spoken words that can instantly target and damage the soul, Frankenstein's soul in this case being capable of expelling Pralaya's time gremlins, which existed beyond life and death. On a more benevolent note, he can remove foreign elements from another's soul, like the time he removed a binding curse.
Astral Projection
Mind Manipulation
Constantine has affected Swamp Thing's mind, which could survive exposure to the idea bomb that tapped into the deeper realities of thought and information. He has mind controlled two thugs at once, implanted mental ticks to hamper spellcasting, sent telepathic messages to Nergal, put people to sleep, and read the mind of a djinn. He can also alter his own mind, creating a psychic deadzone around himself and others to hide them within the Collective Unconscious. He can also drain knowledge from others with a touch.
As a occult investigator, Constantine has exorcised plenty of demons and monsters from others and himself, having forced Deadman out of his own body more than once, even though Deadman has seized control of entire Pantheons of Gods and merged with the Green itself through Swamp Thing. When tapping into the power of the dying heart of magic, John was even able to exorcise the goddess Hecate from Wonder Woman. He can reverse this, once forcibly merging June Moore and the Enchantress together and containing Deadman within Sea King's body.
His circles create shields for defence, and have held off Swamp Thing, Superman, and the Enchantress. His whole body is covered in protective wards, hiding presences and protecting them from powerful demons. Through protective chants, he can ignore curses.
Through reciting an enemy's incantation, John can turn their spell back on them, such as above. He also knows the Turnabout Spell, which causes any damage inflicted on him to be inflicted back on the attacker within 24 hours (this doesn't prevent him from getting injured in the first place, though).
John has been able to achieve limited matter manipulation, changing a cloth into a feather.
His body can use regeneration to reform after considerable damage, restoring him to full health after being disintegrated down to his skeleton and getting turned inside out. His demon blood has also allowed him to heal others, which should apply to him as well.
Reanimation/Necromancy
Despite his heart having stopped beating for several weeks, John was able to extend his death into months, though his body was still decaying and would have eventually died given enough time. He has also used this ability on others, once raising an army of the dead from a graveyard to help him and summoning the spirits of killer's victims to attack their murderer.
Non-Physical Interaction: Magic can affect every aspect of creation, including ghosts, souls, holograms, beings of living energy, living shadows, or embodiments of dark possibilities like the Upside-Down Man
Matter Manipulation: Magic operates by affecting the quarks within atoms
Physical Enhancement: Magic is capable of greatly enhancing one's own strength, speed, and durability
Reality Warping: The power of Chaos Magic is to dominate reality itself and force it to obey your whims, crushing its resistance in the process should it rebel.
Quantum Magic: Given that both general magic and Wave Synchronicity operate on a quantum scale, and that John does know of Quantum Magic, it is possible he knows how to manipulate at this level.
Demonic Physiology: With his demon blood. Demons can alter their size, smell and hear despair, corrupt and possess others, and regenerate from being split in half.
- Mind Manipulation: Constantine has repeatedly resisted mental attacks from all manner of creatures. He has shrugged off mental domination that overcame Orion, a broadcast that drove an entire city into despair, and has repeatedly prevented Martian Manhunter from wiping his memories of him. Martian Manhunter's telepathy is capable of extending across time, scanning entire galaxies and higher dimensions, moving through Planck Time intervals, linking with every mind on Earth simultaneously, bypassing mental resistances, even those as powerful as the Spectre and read the minds of non-linear-time reality warpers He was also able to partially hide himself from Darkseid, who could dominate three billion Daxamites while in a weakened state
- Corruption and Possession: Constantine has resisted Anton Arcane and Deadman's possession due to how filthy his soul is, despite Deadman being capable of possessing Elder Gods and the entire Green, a multiversal entity existing in a higher dimension. This filth also seemed to be why he was completely unaffected by Pandora's Box and the Books of Magic's corruptive influence, as well as enduring the corruption of Hell, which has weakened the willpower of Green Lanterns.
- Space-Time Manipulation: Constantine can (to an extent) resist Darkseid's gravity well, enduring it long enough to cast an illusion that fooled him into leaving the universe behind. John has also weaved a spell to revert the inverted physical and spiritual dimensions back into order.
- Binding and Sealing: Through unknown means, John worked his way through a magical snare described as one of the most powerful in existence, and shredded multiple Angelic wards
- Drugs: Despite being pumped full of sedatives, John viewed it as a "Saturday night mix"
- Magic Manipulation and Power Nullification: Constantine's magic wards on his clothes and his body are there to protect him from all types of magic. Even when a vampire had drained virtually all magic from the world, John was still able to somewhat circumvent it and open a portal to the afterlife.
- Disease Manipulation: John resisted the effects of the Rot, which affected every hero on the planet, and passed through the Realm of the Rot without any noticeable effects, an elemental realm within the lower layer of the Sphere of the Gods
- Soul Manipulation: John was able to travel through the Collective Unconscious, the deepest layers of which contain monsters capable of devouring and twisting one's soul
- Fate Manipulation: Through Wave Synchronicity providing him good luck, John can ensure the best outcome for himself
- Possible Existence Erasure: John with Nightmare Nurse's help was able to resist the Between, a Void of Nothingness that threatened to consume every aspect of their existence, including their memories.
- Keep in mind, they were only able to push the Between back temporarily, and only due to the unique bond they shared through both of them invoking the Blackmare Curse together.
The Doctor
When creation was young and dark, the universe was irrational and magical, where stars were shaped like donuts and no order existed to grant life purpose or direction. But the Will of the Watchmakers was not to be denied. In the cataclysmic ritual of The Anchoring of the Thread, the great Lord Rassilon anchored the planet Gallifrey at the centre of the newly spun Web of Time. More than engineering history, the Great Houses developed the very fabric of space-time into a narrative of reason, purging all chaos, magic, and irrational powers from the very soul of creation. From then on, the past was immutable, the present was free, and the future belonged to no-one but those who chose to make something of it, concepts of growth, order, and duality built into the very structure of history itself.
In doing so, the Time Lords were transformed from merely physical beings to creatures of time itself, their ontological being (or biodata) mapped directly onto the Time Vortex, while Gallifrey was elevated to a higher plane of existence, existing as the absolute present through which all time is measured and recorded. Gallifrey, existing at the apex of the Web of Time, is the convergence of all possible timelines and dimensions and the standard by which all time is measured. It is outside all normal dimensions, Time Lords only becoming "alive" within physical bodies upon leaving Gallifrey to explore the cosmos by entering dimensional space. Being mapped onto the Time Vortex at a fundamental level, they exist outside of time to an extent, to the point where virtually any temporal phenomena has no effect on them; even having their past incarnations be killed will not immediately erase their future selves. At their most primal and fundamental form, Time Lords are capable of moving to the edge of and manipulating their own Noosphere.
Time Lords became true gods among men, higher evolutionaries of the omniverse existing as acausal beings, the very concept of linear time, their pasts virtually indistinguishable from their futures. While Time Lords frequently appear throughout the universe, we are not actually seeing them, only three-dimensional shadows of their true forms. But even as shadows, these entities remain more solid, more real, and more powerful than standard life-forms. If a Time Lord ever left Gallifrey and fully materialized into material space, they would make the ocean of causality freeze in place eternally, for "even the softest touch of a Time Lord can bring an empire into existence, condemn a man to non-existence, and blot out all the stars in their heavens." To simply look at the stars in the sky would not only make them real, but make it so they always were real.
A Time Lord's physical form is more akin to a containment suit that limits the impact their actions have. Time Lords in reality are higher-dimensional, elemental manifestations of the fundamental forces of creation. They are capable of easily interacting with and perceiving higher dimensions; once compared to his TARDIS as a transdimensional monstrosity "crammed into a parody of human flesh", "infinity nesting within the finite", with even the pan-dimensional travellers Jet & Max unable to comprehend the complexity of a Time Lord.
The Doctor and Time Lords in general are the "Prime", original template, their alternates all being secondary copies formed from the Quantum Many Worlds existing as "shadows of shadows" of the Time Lords' Archetypal nature. This is what has allowed the Doctor to fight conceptual entities like the Shift and the Timewyrm across the Collective Unconscious and "poetry of a thousand worlds". This is similar to the Doctor's existence as a nexus point in history, a singularity in the mathematics of the universe that to remove would condemn reality to chaos. Having spent so much time in the darkness of the universe, he has become like an amaranth, inherently drawn to chaos as a force of order. Their mere auras emit a state of temporal grace, suspending aging and rendering one immune to the effects of time.
Their true forms are as boundless, angelic archons, abstractions beyond human conceptual space. These exist in quasi-dimensional meta-space, outside of all dimensions and existence, as a realm of probability that unconsciously reconfigures reality to generate the best possible outcome for them, enabling them to defy the odds and act almost as an embodiment of fate itself. When bringing their true forms into N-Space, they eclipse stars in size. Existing as complex space-time events more than physical matter, Time Lords rationalize the universe with their presence, their Caillou aura converting irrational energies like magic into scientific principles and collapsing the probability of events into one singular certainty through higher-dimensional meta-space. Due to the universe operating under the observer effect, an insane Time Lord's warped perception literally turned reality to incomprehensible chaos around him. Their wills are strong enough to break reality through their doubt and alter timelines through subconscious desire.
On a more practical level, Time Lords can defy chronology to land attacks before throwing them, punch at impossible speeds and warp space-time to converge multiple attacks on one point. The Doctor is also virtually immune to all manner of space-time phenomena such as time quakes, eddies, ruptures, time being stopped, slowed, accelerated, and reversed around them, even to the point where time was being rewound back to the Big Bang, ripping apart other victims on an atomic level. At one point, when the Doctor was facing a Charon, a meta-dimensional entity capable of warping entire solar systems, the Charon attempted to eradicate the Doctor's very reality layer by layer, only for the Doctor to pull mass from his "true body" in quasi-space, his real form growing in size until it eclipsed the sun in real-space.
Throughout the mysterious War in Heaven, a creation spanning conflict between the Time Lords and the forever enigmatic "Enemy", Time Lords (known as the Great Houses) are stated repeatedly to be history itself, the meta-structure of Gallifrey's rational universe forming the Noospheres and cultures of countless civilizations. Indeed, the War is considered a war of Platonic Forms between two different experiences of what it means to "be", the Enemy existing as "the process of rebellion itself", opposition itself against the rationalisation of the Time Lords, "the fact that history has no arc, no morals, and no ethics", with the war itself embedded into the meta-structure of history itself, all wars and conflicts of the universe existing as shadows of a War that has warped the Noospheres of countless civilizations. Yet despite the rational tyranny the Time Lords imposed on creation, they are simultaneously the final barrier between the Enemy and "a world without the strange and uncanny, without the romantic or the grotesque, a world devoid of mysteries or wonders". Alas, the final irony is that the Enemy may have already won, and made the great empire of time and order be reduced to a background detail.... in your favourite Saturday afternoon television programme.
Time Lords have a respiratory bypass system of two hearts, granting them high levels of toughness and pain tolerance and above average strength, able to rip off stone arms and crush objects into dust with their grip. A Time Lord can endure extreme heat and cold for extended periods, walk in a vacuum for several minutes, absorb and dissipate fatal doses of radiation, and shut off pain. And while Time Lords do not possess limitless stamina, they rarely, if ever, need to sleep, the Doctor doing so more out of boredom than anything else. Even if dying beyond the point of regenerating, a Time Lord can last for days on fumes
A Time Lord's eyes are considered somewhat sentient; rather than merely being receivers of information for the brain, they are capable of processing a fair amount of data by themselves. Their brains can split their hemispheres so to multitask, and can link their neurons to other biological life to reprogram them and absorb their knowledge, extending to nanogenes, microscopic robots built to cure diseases.
Without the need for regenerating, the Doctor does have a healing factor thanks to his blood platelets, allowing him to recover from wounds much quicker than humans, accelerate healing in humans, heal burns, completely rejuvenate his physical body, and (with aid) was able to be revived after all the blood drained from his body. His metabolism can shrug off nanite viruses, tooth decay, alcohol, chemical mind control, and clogged arteries, and has antibodies that prevent him from becoming a vampire. Given time, their bodies can adapt to virtually any lethal environment.
Despite being a mere shell for their true form, a Time Lord body can still reach into and interact with higher dimensions.
The Mind
As a vast and incomprehensible alien intelligence, with Time Lord brains being bigger on the inside. With brainpower on a cosmic scale, Time Lord minds are threaded through time itself, existing in the past, present, & future and external higher dimensions simultaneously, thoughts being a quantum process that defines time and reality. His physical brain is composed of sentient atomic nuclei that thread through his mind on a hyperspatial level within five dimensions. Within the deepest regions of the Doctor's mind are the roots of the Axis Mundi, the World Tree of Dreamtime within the Astral Plane itself, where the mind exists as imagination and Jungian Archetypes, and encompasses all the Doctor was, is, and will be. It is also where the Archetypes of the Doctor's past and future incarnations reside as the Guardians of the Edge, there to help the Doctor whenever he needs it.
Like his body, it is capable of regenerating, such as when his living data form was erased, only for his mind to regenerate it from almost complete destruction. The Doctor can alter his mind to operate on higher or lower dimensional levels, slow his perception of time to have more time to think or shut it down entirely to prevent it from being interrogated.
It is large enough to contain even the highly upgraded Cyberiad, the entire Dalek Path Web, a hive mind containing every Dalek in existence and the Matrix, a supercomputer capable of holding and containing entire timelines and universes (though doing so forced the Doctor to erase many of his memories and develop amnesia). When the Celesti agent One attempted to breach the Doctor's mind, he compared its immensity to experiencing a Swimmer of the Void, a meta-structure so gigantic its mere existence can destroy conceptual beings.
Their minds are also in tune with the Prime Mover, the most fundamental force of all creation, allowing them to see the currents of the universe itself and comprehend the deeper order that most would see as random chaos. They exist and act on a hyperspatial level, viewing all potential timelines.
Biodata is the core memetic essence of a being, containing their entire timeline, personality, biology, ontology and more, containing myths and legends on a conceptual level of "pure meaning" more fundamental than the forms of matter, including quantum theory. It is through biodata that virtually all reality is formed, for it is the seed from which universes are formed, time travel is utilized, and existence is stabilized, as biodata is essentially the true form of the quantum observer effect. It is quintessence packed into strands, its temporal/conceptual nature surpassing 11-dimensional space and possessing more dimensions than one can perceive. One's biodata/memory data is compared to their very life or "self". Time Lords are capable of directly altering certain parts of their biodata, the first Watchmakers literally and physically ripping out the irrational parts of their souls from their bodies.
Chronon Energy
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The Vortex energy time travellers utilize to remain unaffected by moving outside linear time. It is life energy, without which a Time Lord cannot survive, the chaos power of time that is "the fire at the end of the universe". Chronon energy can reinvigorate neurons, empower time-sensitive beings, hold dimensional travellers together, accelerate and rewind time to the point of aging someone to dust, block memories, and in its rawest form can completely erase targets from existence by casting them into the Void Between Universes/the Never-Space and rip someone apart atom by atom on every dimensional plane beyond linear time. The Doctor contains a substantial amount of chronon energy and can unleash it from his body in bursts, though draining too much will kill him.
While not something directly at his beck and call, the Doctor can receive information on upcoming events and threats by a shadow of his future self, which manifests as a spectral wraith. The Watcher is capable of acting independently of the Doctor, bringing Nyssa to Logopolis from Traken and operating the TARDIS. He is also capable of teleporting and travelling through the Vortex unaided, given he appears and vanishes without a trace, only to be found on different planets and times without having needed a ship. These "shaydes" are capable of influencing another's mind, seeing as how the Observer subtly altered the Toymaker's personality.
A Time Lord by nature possesses superhuman senses in comparison to humans, in addition to several more humans do not have at all. He can use these senses at incredible speed by slowing his perception of time, even extending them across dimensions lacking any physical laws.
Physical Senses
- Eyesight: The Doctor has night vision and can see both infra-red and UV light, see through cloaking fields and perception filters, adjust his eyesight to see conceptual beings, and see mental projections across space-time. Time Lords can see for miles with perfect clarity.
- Smell: The Doctor can detect time paradoxes, humans, and other Time Lords through scent alone, and can easily smell other people's emotions. He can identify planets and their weather patterns by smelling the ozone, time periods through scent, and separate individual chemical components in the air
- Hearing: The Doctor can hear things from a mile away, deduce how many opponents are coming from vibrations in the ground, hear extremely low frequency wavelengths, and even hear the entire universe all at once. Noises coming from separate pocket realities are not hidden from him either.
- Taste: By tasting objects, he can deduce their material composition and use that to know what location and time period he is in. He has also tasted teleport residue, individual ingredients in poisoned drinks, and somehow knew that the gift shop 20 miles away has a low review rating by tasting the soil.
- Touch: The Doctor can feel the weight of dice, the fluctuations of gravity and air currents to the point where he can correctly deduce how dice will land, allowing him to sweep a casino.
- 6th Sense: The Doctor can sense when and where life is manifesting, as well as what type of life form it is
- 7th Sense: Time Lords can use this sense to detect brain chemicals
- Probability detection: Time Lords can see probability, using it constantly throughout his adventures to best the odds while appearing merely lucky.
- Danger Sense: The Doctor can sense evil presences, as well as if someone is following him.
- Time Lord Sense: The Doctor could normally sense another Time Lord from across the planet unless something was blocking him out.
- Dimensional senses: The Doctor can feel the shape, rotation, and orbit of entire planets/galaxies, detect tiny changes in gravity, play games in nine dimensions, see and alter the pattern of history, view conceptual entities and Elder Gods without going mad, and extend his senses across entire universes that lack dimensionality altogether. He is also capable of viewing and mapping the entire multiverse through the "Second Aether", an archetypal realm of metaphysics that sits between dualities and opposites.
- Time Senses: Time Lords can see time as a song and notice "if any of the notes are wrong". He can see objects out of sync/phase with time down to the chronon, ruptures in the space-time continuum, objects entirely outside of time, unstable personal timelines, erased timelines, and feel any sort of time manipulation like time loops, time slowing, and time travel, as well as if he is in an alternate timeline.
- Biodata Sense: He can feel distortions in Biodata around him.
Due to Time Lords existing beyond fourth-dimensional time, they possess various methods of predicting the future and past. Time Lords not only have a general danger sense through being attuned to the flux of possibilities, they also possess limited prescience; they can see the future of certain events, people, and certain actions, even when fighting Archons that existed beyond space-time and were sending their attacks through impossible angles and higher dimensions. The Doctor has shown the ability to see the past, present and future all at once, being able to see someone's entire timeline with a glance, detect changes to the timeline at a moment's notice, view and alter the patterns of history, observe and remember erased timelines, and "see what is, what was, what could be, and what must not.". This extends beyond the regular universe into potential timelines of tachyon-based fictional/potential universes, as Time Lords experience every alternative of every instance all at once, and can predict the deeper patterns of reality that are too complex for most to see, able to predict the tiniest of details from mere observation.
The Doctor has banished a Carrionite by invoking its true name, unleashed a war cry that banished evil spirits and hallucinations, and learnt command phrases that can paralyze those who hear it. He can also utilize the words of the Wise Man, unleashing the Jungian/Archetypal force of rationality that can banish archetypal demons from the Collective Unconscious. Oh, and he can also scream at a high enough pitch to shatter glass and knows a song that can lull humans and animals to sleep. Not too surprising when Gallifreyan language can burn out stars and topple gods.
With psionic energy being one of the few "irrational" powers allowed to remain after the Anchoring, Time Lords can channel it a variety of ways, breaking locks, levitating, or just outright flying. The death of a the Doctor's mind would release an Artron pulse powerful enough to the Moon out of orbit, and when empowered by other sources he can form protective forcefields and blast away enemies. Time Lords like Rassilon and Omega have held back black holes and maintained entire universes. Enough Artron energy can wear thin time itself and cause rifts in reality to form.
Telepathy
Obviously, psionic energy extends to telepathic ability as well, with Time Lords being natural psychics. The Doctor can form psychic connections with others (even non-sentient objects like doors), forcibly upload information to another's mind with a headbutt, put someone to sleep with a touch, implant telepathic viruses, astrally project and walk into dreams, sense mental energies, push someone's mind to their future death, shield others from telepathic attack, contain conceptual entities like the Shift, collapse mental & mathematical structures and if he's turned evil, torture someone mentally.
When his former companion Donna Noble was forced to have her memories of him erased, he implanted a defence mechanism within her that could unleash psychic shockwaves powerful enough to knock out multiple Time Lord human hybrids, and can unleash telepathic attacks, such as banishing hive minds to pocket universes. He has on occasion laid false psychic trails using others' brainwaves too (See Psychic Abilities within the link).
Also, as Time Lords possess a faint collective hive mind with each other, with time and effort the Doctor can integrate with psychic networks and either draw power from them or shut them down entirely. He once forced the Matrix to release him, despite said Matrix possessing enough power to reconfigure timelines.
The Doctor and other Time Lords can hypnotize opponents, placing them in trances to obey his instructions with his voice (even other Time Lords that boast psychic defences), eye contact, or his aura, as his mere presence as a complex space-time event alters the way someone thinks, making virtually everyone near him instinctively trust him. It even works on robots, somehow. This ability is advanced enough to completely rewrite a soldier's mind into becoming a medic.
A standard ability of Time Lords. As the Doctor's linked to the Time Vortex by a cord of pure mathematics, he can warp the equations to summon any object he wants to his hand from anywhere in space and time or teleport said object away, once even using it to teleport himself out of a jail cell into the Time Vortex. Artron Energy, energy drawn from the Time Vortex, is another method of teleportation the Doctor can use, keying into residual sources to make biological swaps over thousands of light years.
Time Lords possess an unmatched mastery of time, existing as one with it and simultaneously removed from it while being constantly empowered by Chronon energy drawn from the Eye of Harmony. Not only can they freeze causality with their mere presence, but their "aura" can empower nearby bystanders to resist time manipulation, or do the opposite and cancel out said resistances. In combat, this allows the Doctor to "defy chronology, landing punches before they're thrown, moving at impossible speeds, and converging attacks on one point in space-time", or grab opponents out of sync with normal time and unleash a blast of chrono-linear feedback to incapacitate them. When he's with his other incarnations, the Doctor can pool his power and reverse time itself. It's also possible he can stop time in certain areas.
A subtler form of the aforementioned reality crystallization, Time Lords can choose what exists and what doesn't just by looking at it, willing it to have never been to begin with. This can be done to entire constellations and timelines, or focused to something as small as a cup or a planet. Chronon energy as well (mentioned above) could destroy one's entire timeline.
Fate/Probability Manipulation
The Doctor can affect entities existing beyond physical matter, once restraining a Lamprey that existed across all space and time in the remaining multiverse with his bare hands, as well as briefly shedding his body to alter the reality of an entity composed of pure mathematics, and has used his mind to unravel entities of EM waves and ideas. Artron Energy has damaged non-physical entities like higher-dimensional Chronovores, and a touch of it on Clyde Langer allowed him to damage the Trickster, an embodiment of nothingness. He has battled archetypal beings like the Timewyrm across cultures, poetry, and myth just by touching her, and other Time Lords have ripped out parts of their souls from their bodies with their bare hands. He has also touched River Song's psychic/astral form.
Sealing/BFR
Thought is a quantum process, one that defines time and reality. View the universe as a book, you can rewrite the words and remove the paintings, and reality will fall in line. The Doctor found he was capable of using his psychic powers to exert his will on the Celestial Toyroom, which is composed of pure imagination, and enforce some control over the Catastrophia, a lawless plane completely lacking rules, logic, order, or reason, as the logic of the mind could bind such irrational chaos and seal it off from the universe altogether. When the Master of the Land attacked the Doctor in the Vortex with the power of the Land of Fiction, summoning a dragon of pure imagination, the Doctor summoned a dragon right back, wrestling with the Master for control across entire dimensions.
The Doctor usually limits his power to the standard three dimensions to prevent causing undue damage. A Time Lord can essentially do whatever they want based on their state of mind, altering the substance of time, which exists beyond the quantum level, breaking the rules of the universe through the greater reality outside of it and manipulating the power of creation, for consciousness is the true reality of creation. Time Lords can manipulate this world of thought, and have altered minds with a word, healed others, created a storm, disabled a planet wide computer network with a virus by speaking to it, bent time and gravity to their liking, destroyed planets with a thought, created matter, and warped the universe. The Doctor could speak any command he wanted and reality would obey him, even against other Time Lords with the same ability. He commanded Tarnis to release Ace against his will and then ordered him to die. He also revoked the Minister's TARDIS and banished it from his presence, removing his powers. Tarnis himself admitted that if he really wanted to, the Doctor could tell a ship to explode and it would.
Potential Abilities
- Bio-electric blasts: Rassilon was capable of blasting electricity from his fingers to disable a saboteur, an ability that should be accessible to other Time Lords
- Physical Transcendence: When threatened by the War in Heaven, several Time Lords abandoned the physical universe entirely, transforming themselves into purely conceptual beings, unbound by time, space, or dimensions.
- Dimensional Manipulation: A potential future incarnation of the Doctor (Father Time) was able to time scoop several incarnations of the Doctor from across all history with little effort, and cut off the TARDIS's interior dimensions from its exterior.
- Creation: It is theorized that Greater Time Elementals (higher ranks of Time Lords) can create matter
- Omnipotence: Guardians of Time are capable of rewriting reality any way they want across all existence (See Forms)
- Disease and Biological Manipulation: A Time Lord's body is capable of fending off viruses that turn normal people invisible and purge nanite viruses, the triple helix DNA of Rassilon protecting them from reality warping biological warfare. His Time Lord immunities also make him completely immune to Vampire bites including those of the Yssgaroth, who infected the Web of Time itself, similar to how he could resist being turned into a Dalek.
- Paralysis: The Doctor was able to break free of the Fendahl's gaze, which can induce complete paralyis.
- Analysis: The Doctor is notoriously difficult to read; his future is indistinguishable from his past, his timeline is one big continuity error of at least 17 different timelines, his true name being hidden from existence to the point where the Carrionite could not use it, and even the great Sherlock Holmes was unable to deduce anything about him. He has also memory-proofed his information on a twelfth dimensional level, making anyone who learns anything about him forget the information the moment they no longer observe him
- Precognition: Time Lords are known to "bugger up" predictions of the future due to existing outside standard cause and effect. It is difficult to see his timeline, or predict his actions. The War Doctor was such a wildcard that even the Possibility Engine, which predicted millions of possible futures, could not account for his presence
- Mind Manipulation: Thanks to his Artron Energy reserves, the Doctor has frequently shrugged off mental attacks from supercomputers as dense as pulsars and conceptual entities like the Celestis and hidden his thoughts from higher dimensional lifeforms like the Eternals. He has also resisted the assimilation of the Cybermind, which could constantly evolve to adapt to and counter any obstacle. He also matched the Master Brain, said Master Brain being capable of controlling the entire Land of Fiction, an endless series of stacked conceptual multiverses.
- Soul Manipulation: The Doctor has shrugged off attempts to rip his soul from his body, and since his biodata (basically his being) is mapped onto the Time Vortex, altering it is incredibly difficult. His archetypal self within the Astral Plane banished several Jungian demons and gods with a word during a battle with the Timewyrm, admitting that the Timewyrm could only affect his data structure (his biodata/soul) when he allowed her to. He has resisted possession from the Clock People, who are souls turned into temporal viruses that transmutate victims into their species.
- Space-Time Manipulation: All Time Lords are capable of shrugging off virtually all temporal phenomena and disturbances, even from beings as powerful as a Lamprey (which can devour multiverses). He has also moved through time being rewound and accelerated around him, time stops, time disruptions, eddies, and the like. He has also endured dimensional batterings on every plane of reality, normally ignores space-time disruptions of Chronovores, and walked through time storms that twisted beings across dimensions and destroyed alternate timelines
- Matter Manipulation: When the Doctor and his TARDIS were caught in an anti-time explosion, which should've resulted in mutual annihilation, both survived, instead transforming him into the dark being Zagreus.
- Plot & Reality Manipulation: When facing a Charon, another meta-dimensional entity that had warped a solar system to its liking, said Charon attempted to blast the Doctor's reality apart layer by layer, only for the Doctor to resist and overwhelm it by pulling from his higher-dimensional body. One Time Lord survived being completely written out of the narrative by the writer, learning to exist as a conceptual being and interact with the plot by leaving footnotes. The Doctor himself has managed this in his time in the Land of Fiction, the embodiment of all stories told across the multiverse, where he fought against the Master of the Land's attempt to erase him from the story and thus existence.
- Gravity Manipulation: The Doctor has briefly survived falling beyond the event horizon of a black hole more than once.
- Death and Madness Manipulation: The Doctor could look upon an Elder God without going mad, as well as resist the abilities of the Sisterhood of Karn, who could induce death in normal targets.
- Magic: The Doctor's "Caillou" aura bends irrationality, such as magic, into something more ordered. He has scared off and resisted the magic of the Carnival Queen (to a certain extent), and has warped a spell that was tied to his very being. Even the wizard Merlin stated that magic cannot overwrite the Laws of Time. The Carrionites' word/name based "magic" could not kill Martha Jones due to her being outside of normal time, which should apply to the Doctor to a greater extent, and other Time Lords like the Master have resisted spells.
- Fate Manipulation: One of the prices of being a time traveller is to have no fixed destiny or timeline. The Doctor has broken fixed points in time on more than one occasion, events fated or necessary to happen such as his own death. His broken and contradictory timeline also means that no future he has is set in stone, given how many possible futures he has.
- Sealing: When the Doctor and Belinda were trapped within Celluloid film, the Doctor was somehow able to grab the edge of the film strip from within and hold it in place. Additionally, due to being complex space-time events, he and Bill Potts could resist being sealed between dimensions, and shrug off BFR.
- Existence Erasure: The Curator, a future version of the Doctor, could resist exposure to the Void, which destroys on a physical and ontological level and where all laws of physics, space, and time break down. The regular Doctor has survived exposure to the Crack in Time, which erased all it touched from history all-together, banished it into the Void, and was compared to the "fire at the end of the universe" as well as endure limited exposure to the Time Vortex, which breaks concepts down into unreality.
- Astral Projection: His astral form can transfer itself across the universe and into higher realms of the afterlife, or across time to view past and future
- Possession: He can eject a body's astral self and take its place within.
- Elemental Manipulation: During his trials to become Swamp God, Holland gained control over the wind, stones, water, and fire.
- Metamorphosis: Having complete control over his molecular structure, Holland can adjust his size to either eclipse mountains and planets or shrink beyond the atomic into the Microverse, grow wings and fly, allow punches to pass right through him, and alter his brain to become a living computer.
- Plant Manipulation: John can control any plant on any planet connected to the Green, growing forests of thorns, or lowering the oxygen output to suffocate opponents.
- Duplication: Swamp Thing can create an entire army of servants that act as extensions of his own will.
- Materialization: By linking his mind to any plant, he can leave a decaying body and form a new one at any location, even across galaxies and other dimensions.
- Enhanced Senses/Awareness: Through the Green Holland can sense emotions, psychic influence, magically cloaked presences, and can delve (with intense meditation) into the quantum realm and touch the mind of God.
- BFR: Swamp Thing can pull targets into either the Green or the Astral Plane connected to the Afterlife.
- Reality Warping: The power of the Green is an idea and a will that can alter dimensions and can affect other Elemental Realms/powers.
- Regeneration: Holland can repair any damage done to his body, reattaching limbs and healing his head being destroyed.
While the First Law of Time normally prevents the Doctor from crossing his own time stream and interacting with other versions of himself, there have been multiple occasions where the Doctor has encountered and teamed up with his past and future incarnations to prevent creation spanning disasters. As well as providing an extra pair of hands and agents (or several extra) to multitask, it allows the future Doctors to provide information for his past selves to process over the resultant centuries in age between them, allowing him to instantly gain the knowledge needed to solve said problem or for complex calculations that would normally take centuries to finish to be completed virtually instantly.
- BFR: With a touch they can transport people through both time and space, feeding on the potential energy of what their life should have been.
- Energy Absorption: The Angels can siphon power from practically anywhere, from technology, radiation, temporal energy, to even planets and stars
- Regeneration: One Angel restored itself after being shattered, and a drawing of an Angel repaired itself after being torn to shreds
- Flight: Angels have wings. Wings can fly. Go figure. Angels can fly at high speeds across planets and space.
- Mist Creation: Angels can create fog to hide their movements
- Duplication and Manifestation: Anything that bears the image of an angel becomes itself an angel, be it a photo, a video recording, or even a picture drawn in pencil, allowing the Angel to rapidly build an army for itself.
- Telepathy, Possession, and Mind Control: By looking too long at an angel's eyes, an image of the angel is created within their mind, one that will eventually climb out of the host's mind and possess them. This is potent enough to infect artificial machines like the Heavenly Host. They can also mind control and communicate with others without possessing them
- Transmutation: When an angel possesses someone completely, they are physically turned into a Weeping Angel. Similarly, they can make one crumble into dust with a touch.
- Superhuman Attributes: Angels are strong enough to snap necks & force open magnetically sealed doors, durable enough to fall from orbit and survive the core of a star, and fast enough to bend the laws of physics with sheer speed
- Technology Manipulation: As angels can possess machines, they can dim lights with a thought, corrupt data, deadlock doors that have no deadlock mechanism to begin with, prevent heat from affecting materials, and interact with a person's image on a camera feed to affect that person in real life without physically touching them.
- Quantum Extraction: The Angels removed a town from space and time
In a last ditch effort to combat the monstrous Blight, Constantine invoked the Blackmare Curse alongside Nightmare Nurse, unleashing the inner darkness of his soul as a demonic beast. What the beast loses in versatility, it makes up for in raw power. Together, the two Blackmare Beasts stalemated and knocked back Blight, who was channelling all the evil of the Collective Unconscious and was cracking open creation. It is possible for users to access this form at will, given how Nightmare Nurse immediately transformed in angeron one occasion. For all its power, it has an equivalent price; conjuring one's inner demons rips the mind and soul into a million pieces, to the point that John was left catatonic for days after using it. It is also virtually impossible for John to revert to human form after triggering it due to its bloodlust overtaking his reason, requiring Nightmare Nurse's aid to snap him out of it.
- Super Strength: Shazam possesses might on par with Superman, allowing him to punch black holes into existence
- Super Speed: Superman has admitted that Shazam is faster than him, and Shazam proved it by catching up to the Flash, who had just admitted to being able to run faster than time itself.
- Flight: He flies now.
- The Lightning of Zeus: He can summon powerful lightning bolts of Zeus himself
- The Wisdom of Solomon: Allows John to assess any threat for weaknesses and access any knowledge he needs.
- Magic Healing, which enabled Shazam to restore his body being turned inside out by a tesseract bomb.
- Unleash waves of energy capable of disintegrating entire armies
- Undo planetary mind control fields and access other minds
- Become one with Time
- Perceive and manipulate matter on an atomic level
- See past, present and future, all at once
- Perceive all possible futures and pasts
- Resurrect the dead and make them immortal and indestructible, even against the deconstruction of the Time Vortex
- Create bootstrap paradoxes
- Create powerful energy barriers
- Conjure pure mathematics and convert it to matter and energy
- Break the laws of physics
- Gain mastery of reality
- Absorb all reality into himself and reduce creation to Void.
- Absorb energy
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John Constantine
- Captured the Trinity of Sin in one day
- Outwitted the First of the Fallen multiple times
- Tricked three demons into curing his cancer with no cost to himself
- Somehow gets Zatanna to put up with him
- Exorcised Hecate from Wonder Woman
- Fooled Darkseid and Doctor Fate with his illusions
- Mentored Swamp Thing into facing the Great Darkness
- Stopped the Fear Machine
- Helped Timothy Hunter realize his potential as the greatest magician of all
- Threatened God himself
- Blackmailed Dream of the Endless
- Snuck up on Nightwing without being detected
- Tricked Doctor Fate into suicide
- Manhandled the entire Justice League Dark
- Inspired Alan Moore into creating him (seriously)
Power
- Smashed a car window with a kick
- Ripped out Nergal's spine
- Trapped the Phantom Stranger, then later claimed he could do the same to Spectre
- Blasted away the Justice League Dark
- Has repeatedly depowered and held off Swamp Thing
- In his Blackmare form, stalemated Blight, who cracked open creation and threatened to merge the physical and metaphysical realms
- Restrained Hecate, who possessed more power than any god who had ever walked the Earth.
- This would include beings such as Darkseid War Darkseid and Anti-Monitor, as well as Doctor Fate and Zeus
- Stomped powerful sorcerers like Nick Necros and Felix Faust.
- Matched Mr E when he was amped by enough power to warrant the Spectre's attention
- Was one of five sorcerers alongside Etrigan and Doctor Fate that were needed to conjure a world-saving spell.
- Blasted one of the Seven Deadly Sins
- Briefly sealed Zauriel, who could erase the Phantom Stranger
- Is implied to be comparable or superior to Zatanna
- Is noted to have considerable power by the First of the Fallen
- Forced Doctor Fate to block his attack
- Madame Xanadu's power could not breach his seals
- Believed his god-killer spell could kill Upside-Down Man
- While his spell ultimately proved ineffective, the fact that Constantine believed it had a chance to kill Upside-Down Man after he had one-shot Swamp Thing implies that the spell could've at least harmed a being comparable to Swamp Thing
- His Wishing Matches depowered Swamp God
- Teleported faster than a bullet
- Deflected Nightmare Nurse's blast
- Fought alongside Batgirl and rescued her from vampires
- Dodged gunfire
- Dodged Spectre's punch, which could travel across the universe in seconds
- Briefly outran the angel Zauriel (Shown above)
- Got the drop on the First of the Fallen
- Could still function normally while living "days in between each second"
- His illusions (debatably) moved fast enough to cover a universe in seconds (1.5 Quintillion C, likely infinite)
- Resisted Martian Manhunter's attempts to wipe his mind, whose telepathy could reach across time and Planck instants (Debatably Immeasurable)
- Wave Synchronicity makes Time itself bend to him (Possibly Immeasurable)
- Survived a fall from space
- Took a hit from the Sea King, an evil version of Aquaman. Aquaman has:
- Stopped an attack that sank the continent of Atlantis
- Created a forcefield that survived a Speed Force explosion
- Sealed a sea trench/tectonic plate
- Protection spell held off Swamp Thing, who was amped by the Green that connects the multiverse
- His forcefields shrugged of a building sized explosion
- Shrugged off attacks from Enchantress, who could hurt Superman
- Survived being completely disintegrated
- Took a blast from Nightmare Nurse possessed Zatanna
- Fought against Darkseid's gravity well, which was warping space-time.
- Endured having blood ripped from his body
- Briefly channelled the power of SHAZAM through his body
- Tanked a blast from Firestorm
- Took a fire blast from a troll
- Survived a train crash
Feats
- Saved the Omnivere from Monica Lamprey
- Single-handedly ended the Time War
- Is the origin of the word "Doctor" across the universe
- Defended Trenzalore successfully for 900 years
- Endured being killed and resurrected endlessly for 4.5 billion years
- Severed Mictlan from the universe
- Outwitted Fenric multiple times
- Downloaded the entire Matrix into his mind
- Inspired thousands of companions
- Gave a good memory to Vincent Van Gogh
- Banished several demons of the Jungian Archetypes with a word
- Reversed the Kotorruh's Plague of Death
- Hacked into a twelfth dimensional library and memory-proofed all information regarding him
- Made the Daleks flinch with the mention of his name
- Danced with Death herself
- Trapped Nobody No-one in a living narrative
- Teamed up with Jean Luc Picard
Power
- Caught and restrained a Lamprey, who existed across all space and time in the multiverse while gravely weakened
- His Sonic Screwdriver has:
- Frozen a Tsunami (8.95 Kilotons)
- Output London's annual power expenditure (301.7 Gigatons)
- Damaged a Weeping Angel, which could survive the core of a star
- Hurt a Hyperios, a sentient supernova
- Helped destroy a Time War Dalek, which could shrug off nuclear bombs
- Briefly restrained the Vortex Butterfly (5D, likely much higher)
- The Key to Time could contain the Grace, the gods above the Guardians of Time
- Held off a Cyberman with sheer strength
- Easily lifted a weight a circus strongman struggled to move
- The Locator channelled the energy of one billion supernovas
- Held onto an angry bear trying to shake him off its back
- Drove a tree branch through a vampire's ribcage
- His Artron energy could knock a moon from orbit
- Blew up a Dalek Saucer with regeneration energy (Dalek Saucers could match Battle and War Tardises, which can obliterate planets, raze solar systems, and annihilate 6th Dimensional Chronovores) (433 Exatons - 20.08 TeraFoe, likely much higher).
- His "true" body grew larger than the Sun.
- The Moment, (which in one timeline was his creation) was capable of rewriting all reality down to the quantum amplitude where life, non-life, and death cease to have meaning
- Cast away the archetypal gods of Gallifrey with a word
- Killed another God of the Fourth with a command
- Dodged lasers while making thousands of calculations in nanoseconds.
- Read an entire novel in a second.
- Can perceive events lasting a chronon (532 Trillion c)
- It is possible that a chronon in this case is meant to be equivalent to a Planck Instant (1.855e+34 c)
- Knocked an arrow out of the air.
- Shot bullets out of the air.
- Grabbed an object moving at "super-infinite speeds" (Infinite)
- Matched the processing speed of a supercomputer that knew every bit of information on countless universes, thinking at "inconceivable speeds" (3.96984e+3480c, likely Infinite)
- Time Lords can throw their punches through time, move at impossible speeds, and mostly hold off attacks from beings outside of time and dimensions altogether (Immeasurable)
- Merging with the Time Vortex could make him one with all of time (Immeasurable)
- Moved through time dilating and dying around him
- Thought at a pace beyond comprehension
- Picked a lock operating at over 10 billion changes per second (33,356c)
- Tanked multiple shrieks of the Shalka, which could instantly kill humans
- Survived electrocution multiple times
- Fell to Earth from space and was fine
- Effortlessly grabbed a Sycorax whip, which can reduce targets to dust
- Pushed through time being rewritten, which destroyed targets on an atomic level.
- Endured being thrown through a dimensionally transcendent veil and being blasted on every level of reality
- Took a blast of 3000 degree air with no damage, then later survived being frozen at -200 degrees.
- Tanked a solar flare
- Resisted the Charon attempting to destroy his reality, which could warp solar systems and fired the energies of a star at him
- Survived past the event horizon of a black hole twice
- Took a punch from a superwolf
- Survived a several hundred foot fall
- When within the Collective Unconscious/Astral Plane, got slammed by the Timewyrm hard enough to shake a cluster of galaxies
- He and the TARDIS survived an explosion of anti-time that would've otherwise destroyed all of Gallifrey
- Tanked multiple blasts from the Cybermen, who could turn a human to ash
Scaling
John Constantine
Street Tiers
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| "We'll be ready. Justice is always ready. That's why evil always fails. There's only one kind of good, and it's all evil ever gets to battle. Makes it weak and narrow-minded. There's an endless variety of evil. And good's got a lifetime of tricks up its sleeve. We learn from the best." Source |
John is just a regular human physically, but we've seen what "normal" humans can do in DC Comics, and given his repeated encounters with supernatural demons, he should at the very least be able to match street tiers in speed, especially with his magic.
- Cassandra Cain dodged lightning (Sub-relativistic)
- Ravager dodged lightning from Static
- Nightwing casually dodges bullets and gunfire
- Green Arrow fires arrows really fast (Mach 5.35)
- Black Canary can perceive time to the nanosecond and outspeed a Green Lantern's computer (4.3c)
- Katana dodged a laser (2.27c)
Justice League Dark
Zatanna
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| "The time for the Sleep of Brahma isn't now. No, this is the time for life." |
Constantine's long-time ally, friend, lover, ex, frenemy, and a while lot of other colourful words. It's generally accepted that Zatanna is the more powerful magic user, but Constantine has implied that he is comparable to her in skill, and his reputation is so intimidating that a horde of demons about to attack Zatanna didn't dare lift a finger against her the second Constantine arrived.
- Could rip a universe apart
- Matched Doctor Fate and Martian Manhunter, who could move beyond Planck Time in speed
- Doctor Fate could outrun the Big Bang (Immeasurable)
- Harnessed an entire year's worth of solar energy in a second (3.014 Yottatons)
- She also unleashed the attack at "the speed of thought"
- Reacted to an attack that tagged both Batman and Superman
- Could ascend to higher dimensions to defeat Zor
- Made Mr Mxyzptlk speak his name backwards
- Injured a Son of Trigon
- Took a punch from Wonder Woman
- Survived Amazo's heat vision
- Endured attacks from the Upside-Down Man
- Sealed cracks in the timestream that threatened to collapse the multiverse (though she was amped a thousandfold)
- Froze time across the multiverse alongside Nightmare Nurse and Madame Xanadu
- Her casting of the K'am'deva Curse weakened the walls of all reality, reaching the realm of Pralaya
- Took a blast from an Eclipso possessed Spectre
- Matched Mary Marvel in speed and durability
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| "Perhaps.... evil is the hummus formed from virtue's decay.... and perhaps it is from that dark, sinister, loam.... that virtue grows strongest?" |
- Travelled across the entire galaxy
- Became one with the entire planet
- Defeated Anton Arcane when he rivalled the Spectre and Trigon in power
- Remade the entirety of the Green, which connects all times and realms across the entire multiverse
- Wields the powers that make up all creation
- Took multiple hits from several angels
- Defeated Captain Atom
- Restrained Post-Crisis Superman
- Briefly outsped the Black Racer, the embodiment of death
- His astral form moved at the speed of light and the speed of thought
- He could also move parsecs in a single heartbeat (450 Million c)
- Implied to be a threat to the Hell Lords
- Rewrote the reality of the Otherplace and the Upside-Down Man, who was empowered by the Dark Multiverse
- Defeated the Swamp King, who had subsumed the power of the Green, the Red, and the Rot, all being higher platonic realms
- The Green existed before the Dreaming, allowing a weakened Swamp Thing to invade it enough to blackmail Dream of the Endless
- Releasing his elemental powers sent shockwaves across the universe and the "spectrum" of reality
- Becoming Swamp God gave him access to the powers of all the Parliaments, which should put him on par with other Elemental hosts:
- Poison Ivy controlled the minds of every human on Earth at once
- Alan Scott, when amped by every Elemental Force, drew on the power of the multiverse to stagger Darkseid and blast a hole through Apokolips
- Animal Man caught the Rot infected Flash
- The Barren threatened to bring down Heaven itself with Dark Matter
- Two Elementals clashing felled Firestorm
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| “If loss makes you doubt your belief in justice, then you never truly believed in justice at all.” |
- Overcame the gravity of a black hole more than once
- Blocked the pieces of the Shattered God moving from the edge of the universe to Earth in seconds (315 Quintillion c - Infinite)
- Drew blood on Darkseid
- Helped move the Moon (1.18 Yottatons)
- Repeatedly stated to be on a similar level to Superman
- Deflected enough energy to destroy all Olympus, an archetypal world within the Sphere of the Gods
- Took Hunter Zolomon's Infinite Mass Punches as he was moving ahead of her in time (Likely Immeasurable)
- Endured the Void Hound's blasts, which annihilated 10 star systems in its test run
- Said to rival the Flash in speed
- Moved faster than thought and dream, which can move in-between Planck instants
- Manipulated the Sun's gravitational pull
- Could move a planet by hand
- Staggered Ares
- KO'd Supergirl
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| "The world up above won't let your dreams come true, because the world up above isn't nice to people like you and me. But I can change you into everything you've ever wanted... if you're willing to make a deal." |
- The Hunter Demon made the entire Green convulse just by moving through it
- Nergal was so large that his body could not be perceived by someone who could perceive Heaven and Limbo
- Etrigan:
- Belial and Merlin overthrew Lucifer Morningstar
- Golgotha, great-grandson of Trigon, one-shot Michael Demiurgos, who could defeat the Spectre
- Neron reshaped all of Hell
- Zauriel erased the Phantom Stranger
- The Angels of the Pax Dei could design an entire universe
- Angels in general are considered above the Pagan Gods of classical mythology, which would include Zeus and Odin.
- Angels are Platonic forms
- The First of the Fallen empowered Swamp Thing to defeated the weakened realms of the Green and the Red.
- Is an embodied aspect of God
- Shook all of Hell with his footsteps
- His punches crossed the entire universe in seconds (100 Quintillion c - Infinite)
- Doctor Fate believed Spectre's power eclipsed his own
- Easily caught a lightning bolt from Zeus
- Threw Doctor Fate through an infinite number of dimensions all the way to the end of time (Infinite/Immeasurable)
- Held back the destruction of the universe alongside Doctor Fate
- Effortlessly brushed off Superman charging him, who was moving fast enough to shatter space, time, and dimensions around him
- Wielded the power of the Logoz, the most powerful energy in the multiverse, to recreate reality
- Is a threat to "Heaven, Hell, and everything in-between", Heaven and Hell both being infinite multiverses
- Destroyed the Rock of Eternity, the core of the multiverse
- Injured Godstorm John Stewart
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| "I have walked hundreds of billions of miles across this Earth... across time and space... through the blinding light of the Elysian Fields... and the darkest depths of pandemonium... where the stench and despair of the chaoplasm is always a potent reminder of how far man can fall. I am the Phantom Stranger. And the stranger comes... when the stranger is needed." |
- Exists outside the physical laws of the universe
- Matched the Spectre in combat, which threatened all creation
- Took attacks from an enraged and possessed Doctor Fate
- Immune to the power of Eclipso
- Scanned the entire multiverse (Infinite)
- Burned Blight, who had harnessed the power of the Collective Unconscious
- Took a punch from Superman
- Reflected Raven's Soul Self back at her with little effort
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| "Speak my name." |
- His power comes from the Rock of Eternity, which if destroyed would destroy all magic in the multiverse.
- Empowered Captain Marvel, who:
- Punched a black hole into existence (132.65 Foe)
- Can fly to the Rock of Eternity, which exists outside space and time (Immeasurable)
- Survived the Void Hound firing, which could nuke star systems
- Outsped the Flash, who could move faster than time (Immeasurable)
- Became empowered by the Old Gods, who helped him defeat Yuga Khan when Khan threatened to punch a hole in the Source itself
- Fought Black Adam repeatedly, who has:
- Channelled enough energy through him to defeat the Shattered God, a being previously only defeated by the Big Bang
- Helped split the Source in half (Debatable, see Before the Verdict)
- Sealed Ares in Tartarus alongside Hades, preventing him from conquering the universe and the Heavens above
- Flew to the edge of the universe in seconds (At least 52 Quintillion c)
- One of his avatars is Takion, who had the power of the Quantum Field, the Emotional Spectrum, and the Speed Force.
- Takion could also step into "the space between moments" (Possibly Immeasurable)
- Fought Darkseid for seven days straight
- Could create a universe of torment to trap Orion in
- Injured a weakened Anti-Monitor
- Survived the Big Bang
- Battled a Parallax empowered Kilowog
- Other Guardians:
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| "From that incredible light, the first magical being shaped herself out of the cosmos.... to play in a realm of pure possibility and delight, where any thought could be made real." |
Obviously, a magician matching the literal source of all magic is... interesting. But Constantine's Blackmare form was able to contest Blight, who wielded a portion of the Collective Unconscious, Hecate's power. Constantine does not scale to Hecate's power (nor to the Upside-Down Man), but he has been shown affecting beings on their tier of power to a certain extent.
- Three fifths of her power is greater than that of any god who has ever walked the Earth. This would include:
- Black Racer, who severely damaged both Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor
- Orion, who could shift worlds out of orbit using the Astro Force and contain universe destroying blasts. Orion should also scale above random New Gods that could create universes
- Wields two of the seven fundamental forces of creation that shape the Omniverse
- Mortally wounded the Green while Orchid wielded her power
- Is the embodiment of the Collective Unconscious, which exists above the Sphere of the Gods, and Magic itself
- Required Eclipso, the embodiment of God's Wrath, to contain her power
- Blight, a portion of the Collective Unconscious, threatened to merge the physical and metaphysical realms, which would include the Green and the Sphere of the Gods
- Wonder Woman claimed she had never felt such power before, which would (possibly) include the time she briefly channelled the Godwave
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| "You cannot beat Magic itself. Here, I am limitless. Infinite. I take this shape so your small minds can even comprehend me." |
- One-shot Swamp Thing
- Survived a blast from Doctor Fate while weakened
- More powerful than the First of the Fallen
- Would've collapsed all reality and magic
- Wields the power of the Dark Multiverse's every dark possibility and exists above it in his version of the Sphere of the Gods
- Surpasses the power of the aspect of the Great Darkness that threatened all creation. This aspect:
- Overwhelmed Etrigan, Doctor Fate, and Spectre in quick succession
- Threatened all of Hell and Heaven
- Was the equal and opposite to the Hand of God itself
- Smashed through an army of angels
- Would have effortlessly killed Zatanna
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| "Like the random errors in a computer code, discarded and forgotten, left to be picked up by those who also find themselves discarded and forgotten. Magic. It still feels good to learn." |
- Alan Scott threatened all reality when possessed by the Starheart
- He also defeated an amped Guy Gardner, who survived an explosion that killed multiple Guardians of the Universe
- Scott normally wields fragment of the combination of Order and Chaos itself
- Raven could destroy a universe with her magic
- Deadman possessed and tore apart Pantheon, who held the power of 10,000 gods
- Zor ripped apart reality like tissue paper
- Mordru absorbed all the magic of Universe-247
- Magic could create a "crisis-level event", which have frequently threatened the infinite multiverse even across the spiritual plane
- Darkseid's Crisis event rippled into the Monitor Sphere
- The Anti-Monitor's Crisis potentially cracked the Source Wall
- Papa Midnite (with preparation) transformed a portion of Hell into his own version of America
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| “In the Vortex that lies beyond time and space tumbled a police box that was not a police box.” |
- Smashed through a Time War Dalek Saucer
- Can move faster than a space-time breach that could cross the universe in a matter of weeks
- Decoded a quantum lock that cycled through 100 trillion calculations a second
- Turned 35 Dimensions inside out
- Outran both the Then and the Now, an entity outside of space-time altogether, and the Big Bang (Immeasurable)
- Was said to have "unlimited velocity" (Infinite)
- Would've destroyed all universes upon its self-destruction
- A vastly inferior Type 1 TARDIS when fused with the Doctor drew all creation into itself and would've reduced it to Void
- Repaired a weakness in the multiverse
- Time Ships in general can create space-time anomalies like the Great Attractor, a black hole one quintillion times heavier than the Sun
- Absorbed dimensional entropy that would've ripped apart the universe in an equal reaction to the Big Bang
- Could rip apart galaxies, and threatened to erase the entire universe's timeline
- Blocked the Black Guardian from entering, and surrounded the Crystal Guardian's (Celestial Toymaker's) Realm (11-D)
- Could contain the most powerful Osirans
- Exists conterminously with the 5th Dimension
- Kept pace with the Quantum Archangel (Immeasurable)
- Can channel and absorb infinite energy as a universe-sized battery
- Held back the power to rewrite infinite timelines
- Sealed the Vortex Butterfly, who sent 5-Dimensional ripples through space and could have collapsed the universe
- Contained Eidolon in a stasis field, who required multiple Elder Gods to combat and was unafraid of the collapse of the universe
- Tanked Zeus' lightning
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“You don’t just give up. You don’t just let things happen. You make a stand! You say no! You have the guts to do what’s right, even when everyone else just runs away.” |
- The Great Houses' tampering with Biodata of the human race's descendants created Anonymity, an apophatic being beyond the concept of classification that was incomprehensible even against the unreality of the Void
- A Ninjucoid survived a nuclear explosion at point blank range [pg.192-195] (25 Teratons)
- When amplified by the MITRE, Luke Smith could pull the Moon into Earth with enough force to split the planet down to its core
- Rocket ships like the Kepler could cross six kiloparsecs in three hours (57.14 Million c)
- Rose Tyler as Bad Wolf could've brought down the entire universe
- Grant Gordon (as the Ghost) destroyed a window built to survive four nuclear explosions by snapping his fingers (60 Kilotons - 200 Megatons)
- Captain Jack Harkness' existence as a fixed point in time/immortal allowed him to overload the life-force absorption of Abaddon, a son of the Beast, who comes from beyond the universe entirely and exists on the same level as the Elder Gods.
- The psychic Warren Gadd created an infinite conceptual universe with his mind.
- Ace created Nitro 9, which explodes with the energy of a magnitude 9 earthquake (9.32 Teratons)
- Gabby Gonzalez as the Vortex Butterfly existed as a 5th dimensional being.
- Absalom Daak briefly contended with the Then-And-The-Now, a hole in space-time capable of keeping up with the TARDIS (Debatably Immeaurable)
- Compassion became a Type 102 TARDIS and merged with the Universal Machine to create the City of the Saved, existing in the gap between the current and the future universe.
- The City of the Saved held 10 Decillion humans and contained the concepts of culture
- She also had the power to detonate star clusters
- Padmasambhava ascended to Nirvana on the Astral Plane and was able to overcome Sunyata's attempt to become the universe
- Sunyata's ascension was equivocated to the Enlightened state of the Buddha, existing across all space and time simultaneously while transcending the material realm beyond the Void Between Universes
- Even before his ascension, an infinite number of Great Intelligences (also known as the Elder God Yog-Sothoth) across infinite realities were only an imprint of Sunyata's mind, which is too large to exist within one singular universe
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| "This was the day upon which the whole of creation would change forever! This was the day... the Time Lords returned. For Gallifrey! For victory! For the end of Time itself!" |
- Rassilon/Urizen:
- Resisted the gravity of a black hole with his telekinesis
- Constructed Urizen's Wall, an infinite series of hyperdimensional spheres surrounding the entire universe
- May have created the White and Black Guardian and the Key to Time (though this is debatable, as there are many accounts of their creation)
- Imposed a new Law of Physics on the Eye of Harmony with sheer willpower
- His artifacts could allow one to devastate all timelines across the multiverse
- Reversed time across the universe with several other Time Lord minds
- Omega:
- Held together an entire antimatter universe through force of will
- Animated the Ergon to break the laws of physics
- Claimed that the might of 1000 suns could not harm him
- Made a star go supernova with a wave of his hand
- The Master:
- Rewrote and upgraded the TITAN Quantum Computer program by several orders of magnitude while it was active without causing a malfunction
- The most advanced Quantum Computers today can solve problems in five minutes that the most advanced supercomputers would take ten septillion years to do, despite said supercomputers being able to make one quintillion calculations per second (1.052e+39c)
- He was also capable of making calculations with a million decimal places within hours at most
- Has destroyed stars, galaxies, and universes
- His final form became an entropy wave that threatened every universe
- I.M. Foreman's World absorbed the Biodata/timelines of a million worlds
- The Barber-Surgeon could manipulate and twist the higher temporal creatures of the Time Vortex (which would include Lampreys and Swimmers)
- Romana's regeneration energy could power a machine that would prevent a star from collapsing into a black hole.
- Faction Paradox were capable of consuming Loa, fractal patterns on the meta-structure of history, with both Swimmers and the Cold falling under the definition of Loa.
- Swimmers, also known as "predator universes", are over 150 quadrillion light years long and can pop universes like bubbles by moving too close to them
- A Swimmer considered a Memeovore, a devourer of concepts, a light snack
- They also move so fast time and space buckle around them
- The Cold is an anti-fundamental force that punched holes into other timelines
- The Sisterhood of Karn could pull starships out of orbit with psychic power
- The Anchoring of the Thread rewrote all creation on a conceptual level, erasing chaos, irrationality, and magic.
- The War in Heaven threatened to collapse all creation
- The Final Sanction would have ruptured the multiverse and ripped apart the Time Vortex
- Weaker weapons like Klyptoplasmic Warheads could irradiate portions of the Time Vortex for millions of years.
- The Armageddon Sapphire would have collapsed all reality across infinite timelines into the Six-Fold-Realm
- The Deep Time Telescopes could analyze billions of years worth of information per nanosecond
- The Vulgar Arsenal could tear apart galaxies
- The Eye of Harmony could shred Chronovores, whose mere thoughts could not be contained by entire universes.
- Could vapourise entire galaxies with the Starbane.
- The Eye of Time contained and harnessed the core of the Big Bang, which created the multiverse
- The Genesis Ark would've required the Sun exploding in its face to open
- Threw a neutron star at relativistic speeds
- Fired thousands of planets as bullets across space
- N-Forms could punch a hole into the Void big enough to swallow planets
- The Gauntlet turned the 10,000 universes of the Dawn into fiction.
- May have created the Time Vortex and the infinite multiverse
- The Matrix:
- Dismantled the entire Land of Fiction, a conceptual realms of pure information, and extended all the way to the Astral Plane (See Cosmology)
- Could process information faster than the speed of time (Immeasurable)
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| "... a spark of free thinking, a seed of rebellion remained embedded in the fabric of the new Cosmos. For aeons, the Old Ones slept and the seed grew — until one day the Great Houses discovered the Enemy, and the War in Heaven began." |
- The collapse of the multiverse was considered insignificant by the Transcendental Beings compared to the War in Heaven
- This possibly implies that the Elder Gods believed themselves incapable of stopping the war through their own power.
- Considered the ideological representation of rebellion against reason, and are compared to Platonic Forms and Abstract Emanations, the very facts of reality reasserting themselves against the flawed "interpretation" of the Time Lord, an anti-narrative that states that the Time Lords are not omnipotent
- Warped the Noosphere of every culture in existence, all wars being mere echoes of the War in Heaven
- Exist beyond the edge of Gallifrey's Noosphere
- Are possibly the very writers of Doctor Who, fighting from a world "more real" than that of the Doctor's.
- Erased a Time Lord from existence, which would require tearing their fundamental nature from the Time Vortex
- Can destroy information as easily as matter
- Information is the source code of reality (21:50) and encompasses Platonic myths, memes, metaphysics, and ideas
- Could turn Time Lords from real to fiction (Possibly Outerversal, see Before the Verdict)
- Their war with the Time Lords laid waste to galaxies and drained the universe of energy.
- Have devoured entire timelines/histories and could have rewritten the Web of Time
- Are more dangerous to Time Lords than Leviathans/Swimmers
- Have endured being hit with gamma ray bursts and supernovas
- Their "Secret Fire" could rip apart the laws of reality
- Are unironically the original Scarlet King
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| "ONE GOD RULES THIS UNIVERSE. IT IS DALEK. IT IS I. YOUR. GOD. EMPEROR!" |
- Are repeatedly designated as the most dangerous race in the universe
- Four Daleks were capable of conquering a planet by themselves
- Eight could lay waste to a sector of the galaxy within a year or two
- Blasted apart an exoglass window, which would require a nuclear bomb to break (66.7 Megatons)
- A Special Weapons Dalek's gun is 50 times as powerful (3.33 Gigatons)
- The Emperor could hold off and survive the Entity, who survived a planet burst (334 Petatons)
- Their processors can make 1 trillion calculations in a second (26,685c)
- Are capable of atomizing humans with their lasers
- Wielded the weapons of the Deathsmiths of Goth, which could shatter suns and halt a planet's orbit
- Their Entropy Engine could feed off the power of a solar system's entire timeline
- Dalek drones can refresh their vision fast enough to detect hyperspeed, which breaks the laws of physics (Immeasurable)
- Their empire's self-destruction destroyed the Milky Way Galaxy
- A Dalek Saucer was capable of erasing entire civilizations from reality
- It's battle computers can think 5 dimensionally (Immeasurable)
- The Reality Bomb would've annihilated every universe, timeline, and dimension, including the Void Between Universes
- Were going to move an entire galaxy through a time corridor via a Retcon Bomb
- Harnessed the power of the Void into their weapons that could rip apart TARDISes
- The Dalek Emperor could process data on a 12th dimensional level (Immeasurable)
- The Dalek galactic webwork also was a supercomputer capable of operating faster than the speed of time itself (Immeasurable)
- The Tantalus Eye would have erased Gallifrey from history, bypassing its conceptual Transduction Barriers and piercing a realm outside and above normal space-time
- On the last day of the Time War, they bypassed Gallifrey's multi-dimensional defences that extended through 11 dimensions
- Overpowered several Enigma and forced them to serve their war efforts
- Shattered dimensions and burned histories, even threatening to collapse the multiverse
- Affected the Void Between Universes, an unreality containing no reference of distance, space, time, or physics that made the infinite multiverse look like "froth on a dark sea"
- Splintered countless epochs of time and timelines
- Billions of galaxies were obliterated on a 5th dimensional level
- Vast swathes of the universe were left uninhabitable for years after the War ended
- Wiped out all Time Lords across the multiverse
- Interfering with the Time War after its end threatened to destabilize the Time Vortex
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| "I am the night. I am the terror. I am the loss. And all life shall perish at my hand." |
- Blown up a planet
- Wiped out all life in N-Space across the entire timeline
- Laughed off and stomped multiple Elder Gods
- This included a God of Ragnarok, who helped create the Land of Fiction
- One-shot a conceptual entity
- The Circle of Transcendence, which was created to transport Osirians to a higher-dimensional afterlife beyond time altogether, could've annihilated multiple multiverses, collapsed space and time, and was considered more impressive than the Daleks' Reality Bomb
- The Osirans went to war with the Constructors of Destiny in the early years of the universe, ripping apart the Time Vortex and creating Quantum Foam tsunamis
- Is the most powerful member of the Pantheon of Discord, surpassing the Trickster
- The Trickster embodies Limbo, an endless, infinite realm without dimensions, existing nowhere and nowhen as nothing, holding people who no longer exist
- Made the Toymaker flee rather than fight, who had previously defeated the other Guardians of Time
"Hey Doctor! Have you heard? Nobody tells the Sun when it can shine! And I say; Stop."
- His Cordis could create a nuclear bomb
- Turned off the Sun
- Was sent crashing into the English Language, removing a letter from the alphabet on a conceptual level
- Would've wiped out all life in the multiverse across past, present, and future in an act of "ultracide" if he hadn't been trapped in the Handovail
- Claimed to have destroyed dimensions in his battles with the Doctor
- Is an "unanchored causal intervention" unbound by space, time, matter, and paradoxes (Possibly Immeasurable)
- He additionally stated that the laws of physics don't apply to him
- Exists as an entity composed of pure language incapable of being damaged through physical means
- Another Word Lord created the Hand of All, a synthetic universe of pure language containing many more pocket worlds as miniature Hands of All, presumably going on forever
- Could overwrite the timeline of a Time Lord due to his extra-dimensional nature
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| "They say that you will devour the first and last of the Time Lords. That Rassilon will be crushed in your jaws during the last moments of the Blue Shift, the final inrush of matter at the end of this universe. You will precipitate that event." |
- Summoned Death itself to attack the Doctor
- Controlled several dark gods of the Collective Unconscious
- Battled the Doctor across cultures and myths
- Gives form to the Menti Celesti,
- Prophesied to bring about the end of reality
- Will wreak havoc across the universe and destroy Gallifrey
- Impacted the Doctor hard enough to disrupt the evolution of several galaxy clusters
- Death:
- Exists as part of the Void Between Universes on a higher plane between this life and the next
- Transcends the concept of death itself, as a lord of reality
- Had enough power to make the Black Guardian himself one of his champions
- Time:
- Possessing Time's power allowed the Sixth Doctor to rewrite Melanie Bush's timeline
- The Doctor possibly implies that Black Guardian is beneath Time in terms of power
- The Possibility Tree encompasses infinite paths and the omniverse
- Lord Thymon is the guardian of meta-time, controlling the omniverse and extending to the real world of the blog.
- Oblivion's realm is composed of infinite layers that become more "real" the further one ascends through them.
- A battle between them ruptured all of Conceptual Space, their very language harmful to reality
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| "Hear me now, Time Lords. I am no longer the woman you knew. I am life and fire incarnate!" |
- Is implied to be the Phoenix Force from Marvel Comics (which is canon to Doctor Who)
- Set space on fire down to the quantum foam
- Could potentially match the Six-Fold-God
- Could've destroyed Gallifrey in an instant and irreparably damaged the Web of Time
- Could make someone one with the entire universe from the beginning to the end of time (Immeasurable)
- Is entirely unbound by time and mortality (Immeasurable/Irrelevant)
- Expanded her mind throughout all existence and the Time Vortex (Infinite/Immeasurable)
- Instantly created billions of alternate timelines
- Underpins and supports every possible universe
- Absorbed the Mad Mind, a supercomputer within a black hole one octillion times heavier than the Sun
- The Archangel was looking for a computer that could generate entire realities for every being in the universe, which required 11th dimensional processing power that could surpass the speed of time (Immeasurable/Irrelevant)
- Unfurled wings billions of light years long in a second and connected with every mind in the universe (Infinite)
- Could've annihilated the entire race of Chronovores
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| "YOU HAVE TRANSGRESSED THE ANCIENT COVENANT" |
The Gods above Gods that govern all reality, from the benevolent White and malevolent Black to the game-obsessed Crystal. The Doctor has escaped and held off invasion from the Black Guardian, surrounded the Toymaker's realm with his TARDIS, and the Key to Time that the Doctor has used in the past is stated to be the totality of the Guardian's power, making the Doctor able to match their power level. It's also theorized that the Doctor will eventually become one of the Guardians himself, and that Rassilon is the Guardian of Mathematics. More directly, the Time War in several timelines caused so much damage to reality that even the Guardians chose to flee rather than intervene.
- Effortlessly erased an Chronovore from existence. Chronovores:
- Are so large that their mere thoughts cannot be contained within the infinitely dimensional universe
- Are "magic personified", above the Time Vortex and the gardeners of the multiverse
- Could instantly devour alternate universes/timelines
- Kronos scanned billions of universes for the Doctor in seconds (Infinite)
- Considered a scream that could shred matter down to the quark level "a summer breeze"
- Altered the fundamental nature of the Time Vortex
- Their presence was compared to the Big Bang itself
- Instantly banished several Eternals. Eternals:
- Exist beyond time altogether
- Could disturb the Time Vortex with their thoughts
- Have become the embodiments of Death and Time, Death being the most powerful foe the Third Doctor had ever faced at that point in time
- Threatened to erase the TARDIS
- Are stated to be "beyond death"
- Wiped the Collective Memory of the the universe
- Could pull the arms off spiral galaxies, as they possess omniversal power
- Exist above and outside the multiverse
- The Celestial Toymaker:
- "Toyed with supernovas" and "turned galaxies into spinning tops"
- Ascended to the Real World and took control of the novelisation of the Giggle
- Was compared to the power of the Time Vortex itself
- Are the most powerful of the Old Ones. The Old Ones:
- Saraquezal possessed the power of 20 billion nuclear bombs (pg.151) and could rip apart quasars (pg.129)
- Fenric is infinitely large and exists in potentially 27-Dimensional Space, seeing the universe as a speck of dust
- The Gods of Ragnarok created the Land of Fiction, an endlessly expanding and infinitely layered multiverse of Conceptual Space completely exempt from the laws of physics
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| "If your God is real, they will be converted to Cyberkind" |
- A Weeping Angel was capable of bending the laws of physics with its sheer speed (Possibly Immeasurable)
- The Angels also crossed the entire universe looking for planets with life (300 Trillion c)
- They were also capable of consuming entire planets and even stars for food
- Monica Lamprey consumed several multiverses for food and would've consumed the entire omniverse, existing as an omnipresent non-physical entity across all of space and time within the Time Vortex
- Chronovores and Eternals can move through time and space at will (Immeasurable)
- The Cyber Collective assimilated the entirety of the Borg Collective
- One of their ships also easily destroyed a Borg Cube
- Their cousins, the Cyberons, created computers that could perceive the entire universe, time, and the unreality of the Void
- The Carnival Queen is the embodiment of the Cosmic Genesis, the collection of all magic and irrationality throughout the multiverse
- The Then-And-The-Now absorbed a pantheon of Dalek Gods formed from the Collective Unconscious
- The Collective Victorious, a hybrid race of Time Lords and Daleks, had slaughtered Elder Gods and the Guardians of Time.
- The Sontaran's nuclear cannons delivered ten exatons of power during one battle
- Gabriel and Tanith accelerated the heat death of the universe by merely existing
Outerversal: What Does It Even Mean?
“Characters or objects residing in higher states of existence surpassing material composition as a whole, and who are therefore completely unreachable and inaccessible to any and all extensions of the aforementioned structures. Their superiority over such realms, as such, is purely “qualitative”; based entirely on the ontological quality and nature of their existence, rather than any quantitative or numerical principle.”
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Most recently shown in G1's Simon vs Kyle blog, Reality over Fiction (R>F) is a state of existence that can interact with all layers beneath it as a writer interacts with an entirely fictional medium, such as an artist drawing the comic book page or a writer of a book interacting with and intruding on the world he has created. Such an entity would exist on an entirely separate and outside perspective; simply being aware of the Fourth Wall would not work, for one cannot automatically affect the story by being aware of it.
The Orrery of Worlds &
Continuum
*Starting from the baseline universe, physical space exists as at least 100 Trillion light-years across, but we know has been expanding at a rate that would put it at 56.77 Nonillion light-years in diameter. However other statements have put the universe as infinite yet still expanding. While the number of universes have changed across the different Crisis events, ranging anywhere from just one to fifty-two, presently Post-Infinite Frontier and Dark Crisis the number of known universes have exploded well beyond the 52 and now encompass an infinite number of possibilities and the return of the infinite universes from the original Crisis.
This multiversal structure is all contained within the Orrery of Worlds. All universes fundamentally exist in the same space, but vibrate at different frequencies amongst each other; this is the Orrery. It is the scab of creation that appeared, forced onto the blank space that is the Overvoid. And not only does it contain the many Earths of the multiverse, but also many higher spatial dimensions with confirmed numbers going up from 6, 10, 12, 19, and more in-between, even N-Dimensional structures that make the limits of dimensionality within the Orrery uncertain (see Before The Verdicts). All based upon M-Theory and membranes.
Where things start to get temporal and metaphysical is when we move beyond the standard universe, starting with the Continuum introduced in Animal Man. It is the space behind reality from which continuous creation and destruction occurs. While it does not transcend time given it can be measured within it by its inhabitants and Crisis events can cause it damage, it does contain records of the history of the multiverse and can contain holdovers from previous continuities and could manifest the lost worlds onto the current one. Interacting with the Continuum is akin to stepping out and being able to manipulate comic book panels.
It’s also been associated with the Morphogenic/Life Field that powers some animal-based heroes like Animal Man, this realm containing the blueprint of the atomic formation of countless lifeforms, containing their ideal forms akin to the platonic. It is analogous to the “Implicate Order”, where our reality is unfolded from a higher one and implication earlier in the run that reality emanates infinitely down in complexity from the implicate. The M-Field stretches into infinity, across higher dimensions as the energy field from where all life forms appear.*
Bulk Spaces
*The M-Field itself is merely a part of a grander realm known as The Red, which is beyond the M-Field to where it is akin to just bubbles on the ocean and where masters of the M-Field believe they had reached Limbo itself. This leads us into the Elemental Realms and the various Parliaments that embody aspects of life, the most famous of which is The Green and the Parliament of Trees as we know it from Swamp Thing. Akin to the upcoming Fifth Dimension we’ll be talking about shortly, the Elemental Realms are a sort of connective bulk space that encompass a large chunk of the cosmology. It lies between ideas and reality, where the consciousnesses of all life exist outside time and space and reach all realms and spaces. Among the elder members of the Parliaments include the likes of Yggdrasil, of the Norse Pantheon within the Sphere of The Gods. From the boundaries between Elemental Realms, one feels as if they are nothing and everything at once, able to see the flow of all life to and from its source.
Now we move onto the Fifth Dimension. First note that this is not referring to the geometric 5th spatial dimension, but rather a spiritual realm or layer. And that there was a retcon of the Fifth Dimension’s nature given how DC treated it as inferior to higher spatial dimensions such as 10-D. Where the First Dimension is a point and the Second is a line, the Third is the Material while the Fourth is Time. The Fifth is Imagination, existing outside time encompassing everything, everywhere all at once. It is the very “Blood” of the multiverse, likely in reference to The Bleed itself. The Bleed is the lifeblood of the multiverse and the very substance of life itself, requiring at least 4-D vision to perceive. It is the space between, and allows travel, to all worlds as it was the “solution” from which the “crystals” that comprise the Orrery emerged from, holding together all reality as the “Greater Time Continuum”.
The Bleed allows for access to higher dimensions and can even reach the Sphere of The Gods. Travel through it stops right by the shores of Limbo. This is all consistent with the Fifth Dimension as it is shown the Imps are about on the same level as the denizens of the Sphere of The Gods. The most powerful of the Imps like Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat-Mite can unmake all creation up to this level to give way for the World Forger’s own copy of the multiverse.*
Sphere of The Gods &
Collective Unconscious
*And now we’ve gone far too long without discussing it properly, so let’s talk about the Sphere of The Gods. Separated from the rest of the multiverse by the Speed Force Wall, it is a world built on the belief of mortals. It exists outside corporeal reality as an “Ultra-Multiversal” realm where gods exist as living ideas from a kind of platonic, archetypal world. Gods are self-aware ideas who use concept-weapons and their emanations into lower reality were akin to merely being the idea of the god as opposed to the god incarnate. It is a higher, vibratory world where gods are ever-ruling, able to strike across millions of moments in Hypertime. Amongst its most powerful denizens are the Lords of Order and Chaos who, through the same power of belief that made the Godsphere in the first place, used that same power to ascend themselves above gods. The Sphere of The Gods is also the realm of Magic, acting as the very source of it. And while belief may have granted Magic its power, Magic is also interwoven across the multiverse at every level of existence and thus its destruction means the destruction of everything.
Atop the Sphere of The Gods is the Collective Unconscious, made from the burgeoning light of possibility and the dreams of life that wished for the impossible. It is the personal realm of Hecate, and from her magic did humanity’s belief grow and pantheons of gods began to appear. The realm also takes the form of the World Tree, from which all creation may be rebuilt from the dissolution of Brahma. But from the pinnacle of Imagination to its very border: Limbo. Or rather its full name: Comic Book Limbo. This realm is where old and forgotten characters end up, a realm of no stories. The Ultima Thule, a ship that rides across the Bleed through the wavelength of vibrations arrived in Limbo when the vibrations ceased and the “music was over, having run out of multiverse”. It is the last outpost of existence where nothing happens without intervention from outside.
And before we get any higher, it’s important we should mention a few other important concepts to the cosmology. First and foremost is the Emotional Spectrum. While its position is not hard set into the DC dimensional structure, we know that as a force it is implied to be comparable to all of Magic and the reservoir to the Spectrum exists right behind the Source Wall. The next is the Life Force, a force that pushes all life in the cosmos to flourish, though it is most closely connected to the sea. Its power inverted is pure destruction that kills even gods.*
Monitor Sphere
And now we can move onto the Monitor Sphere, a higher dimension beyond Limbo that looks down on it as a small flat disc and they repeatedly refer to the worlds of the multiverse as germ worlds. It exists as a form of void and is called the Blank, Gone, Nil and 5,555 other words for “Nothing”. Inhabitants of Nil are made of pure thought, primal forms in a fundamental world, and were once featureless until exposure to the Orrery caused narratives to form around them. Grant Morrison has referred to Limbo as an archetypal realm, though exposure to the Orrery has introduced time to the realm. It exists at the edge of creation itself.
Dark Multiverse
But from the highest points of the multiverse we delve down to the lowest: The Dark Multiverse. Among the three building blocks of creation, dark matter far outnumbers matter and antimatter; a fact reflected with the Dark Multiverse being so large it is compared to an ocean that the DC multiverse floats on top of. It is a realm of an infinite number of nightmare worlds, with each world containing copies of at least the Orrery of Worlds.
It has its own, dark version of the Sphere of The Gods and Collective Unconscious ruled by the Upside-Down Man, Hecate’s dark parallel when she saw her own reflection back at her in the dark. At the very depths of the Dark Multiverse is the World Forge, where all universes are made from and tossed into either the positive or dark matter multiverses. It also possesses a connection to The Dreaming, as ultimately the Dark Multiverse is a realm of the stories that shouldn’t exist.
Hypertime &
Divine Continuum
*Encompassing everything up to this point is Hypertime, the temporal side of creation. Emotions are connected to Time huh?. On its original introduction, Hypertime was described as the interconnected web of parallel timelines, connecting an infinite realm of parallel worlds, as well as acting as a means of preserving past events written off by a split in the timeline. In more recent comics, it is depicted as the temporal opposite of the Omniverse as part of the Divine Continuum. Where the Omniverse is conceptual, Hypertime is emotional, reactive to change and preserves history when timelines are split by decisions, existing forever.
Where both intersect in physical abstraction is known as the Branefold Interior, the realm of the Fuginauts who monitor all creation as the successors of The Monitors. This ranges from the nightmares of the Dark Multiverse up to the abandoned Monitor Sphere.*
Sixth Dimension &
Source Wall
*One of the newest, yet most important additions to DC Cosmology is the Sixth Dimension. Existing beyond the Fifth Dimension, the Sixth is the “Control Room” of the multiverse. A realm of the impossible where the multiverse was designed and set in motion. It is totally unaffected by the destruction of the multiverse underneath it and can even contain an entirely new copy of the multiverse, including Hypertime. At the very edge of the cosmos (fr this time) is the Promethean Galaxy, which isn’t truly a galaxy but the farthest finite border to reality itself until we reach The Source Wall.
The wall has been described as “the limit to thought” and the “highest vibration before one enters the infinite”. It took the place of the Antimatter Universe as the barrier separating the multiverse from the Overvoid, stretching beyond the infinite as the soul of all planes of existence. Many who have tried to pass it end up trapped in the Source Wall, and those attempting to free others from the wall typically require power from the Source itself.
Most recently, the Source Wall has been revealed to double as a prison for Perpetua, *creator of the DC Multiverse (The Presence/some form of God is usually attributed this and the multiverse’s recreation after Perpetua’s sealing could be used to explain this). Perpetua belongs to a race known as The Hands. Akin to DC’s highest sphere, the Hands themselves are Sixth Dimensional and are emissaries of The Source/Presence that are several rungs higher than the likes of the New Gods whose powers create multiverses in the hope that these creations ascend to their level. Only through channeling the Seven Hidden Energies of the multiverse so that Perpetua could escape her prison.*
The Greater Omniverse
Beyond lies the Overvoid, the blank page upon which the very comic panels are drawn, and endless nothingness waits in the hole between atoms. Within this state lies Final Heaven, the realm of the writers that form heroes from the greatest of archetypes. Upon this page do the Hands seed life throughout the omniverse.
The Great Darkness and the Sea of Brahma
Within the non-manifest field of the infinite nothing, the Great Darkness preceding the light of creation, lies Maha Pralaya, the embodiments of the Yuga Cycle of creation, destruction, death and rebirth from Hindu mythology. It exists as beyond the end of time and space, a non-time of no substance. Maha is "the movie God projected when he dreamed all this in his divine imagination", without which all reality would dissolve into the Void, all returned to the Oneness of God as nothing more than a wisp of smoke. Maha is likely the World Tree or akin to her, the source of all magic that weaved all existence into being. Pralaya is the end of the movie, the inevitability that all will fall back into the unonsciousness of God, transcending Creation and Yahweh, and is where all matter ceases to exist. From this primal ocean comes all things, containing all good, evil, contradiction and possibility.
Another manifestation of this entity is the Great Darkness: Existing as the absolute darkness in the chaos beyond Hell and the realm of the Upside-Down Man, it was the infinitude predating the Light of Creation, the absence of God's Light, and the power through which creation would be returned to nothing. Through it does all evil in existence emerge, for The Great Darkness is beyond Lucifer himself, who remains merely an aspect of God despite his desire to be otherwise
The Unity
Beyond this final end is the Ultimate Reality, the omnipresent force that governs the cycles of rebirth, a smile that can only be loved, not understood, for his love transcends such things. He is love, and all existence is illusion in comparison, for all existence is his will and his being is all existence, the true reality emanating downwards. Even the void beyond creation is simply one more part of his essence, for all time, from creation to destruction, is simply part of the eternal now of the Magician, God in human form.
*Also acknowledged as the same entity as The Source, The Presence, and Overvoid, it is the sublime, non-dual omni-awareness beyond the multiverse, existing at the very center of the Greater Omniverse. As mentioned at the very beginning of the cosmology discussion, all the multiverse exists as if it were a germ world spontaneously appearing on its surface, and beings from there who fall into it have the very idea of them lost. Existing as a void without form, its very conception in the mind of Jack “King” Kirby was a force beyond gods, division, and definition*, the unified field, the vacuum of Void from which all aspects of creation emanate, and which cast away the Great Darkness when he spoke "Let there be Light.".
Outerversal John Constantine?
As some have noted, John's ability to escape the odds and do the impossible has placed him against power on a literally Biblical scale. This has led to some arguments that John has the power to threaten God himself, which consequently should place him on the highest level of power available within the DC Cosmology, that being the Divine Presence, the Source, and the Greater Omniverse. But do these claims hold up under scrutiny?
The Presence/Source being above all dualities, all vibrations, existing as the Prime Monad above all creations and possibilities, even the page on which the comic is drawn on, comfortably places it within Outerversal. So.....
Does John scale to the Presence/Source?
There is a lot of contention over just how powerful the Presence is and how he compares to other powerful cosmic entities, especially with the idea that The Presence and the Source are one and the same thing. Given DC's history of implying that God has an equal and opposite in a tiny portion of the Great Darkness, beings like Pralaya claiming she could swallow God himself, and the Presence himself noting he was shaped by external forces, the Presence's claim of being the omnipotent, transcendent Judeo-Christian God seem to break down under pressure. This extends to Constantine, as there have been instances where Constantine has either forced the Presence to do what he wanted, resisted his will, or faced beings claiming to be more powerful. With these instances, can we therefore scale Constantine to the Presence's power? These instances are surprisingly frequent, but just as frequently is the additional context to these scenes. Let us go over a case by case analysis of each instance.
Resisting the Presence's Will
John hears the Presence in his head, who reveals the truth about Constantine's belief, and John refuses to accept it. This is hardly a case of John resisting the power of God, as the Presence is not attacking John in any way, or even trying to force John into anything. This is more a case of John refusing to admit the truth to himself that he wants to escape the bitter life he has made for himself.
In order to get the Hell Lords to cease their attempts on claiming his soul and threatening his friends, John threatens the Presence with the idea that should he be sent to Hell, he would eventually unite Hell under his command and lead them on a rampage across creation. This causes the Presence to agree to help John.
Again, this is not a case of power or ability. John is simply threatening to stir up trouble in Hell upon his death that would end up spilling over into the greater creation and ultimately Heaven. An impressive feat to be sure, but the most this implies is that the Presence would not have an easy time cleaning up the mess a war between Heaven and Hell would cause, not that Constantine is capable of matching God. Remember, the threat is that John could organize the denizens of Hell into one coherent army and use it to spread havoc, not that he'd gain some invincible power.
The main issue is that this claim is entirely that; a claim. One made by Blight himself, with no actual showings to back it up. A claim that is also immediately refuted by the angel Zauriel, who countered that Blight only exists because the Presence allows it as part of a greater plan. Again, hardly the strongest case for being superior. This also applies to John's claim that his seals could have kept God himself out of the House of Mystery. Certainly implies power, but it's just a claim.
Holding Back Pralaya
Pralaya is the embodiment of the Sea of Brahma, the unduality of the Void beyond creation, one that will eventually swallow all things, including God himself. John managed to hold off Pralaya's assault alongside the House of Mystery, and the JLD were ultimately able to defeat Pralaya, so clearly they must scale to some aspect of the Presence, right?
Despite Pralaya's claim, the ultimate reality of the Smile of Brahman (one of DC's representations of God) is explicitly beyond Mahapralaya as a concept. While all things, even the creator, will eventually fall back into the Sea of Brahma, this creator is confirmed to simply be one more aspect of God, the true God that dreams all creation. Pralaya is simply one more stage of the Yuga Cycle, one that will begin again with new life, rather than the ultimate reality.
Secondly, it is debatable whether this is even a feat for Constantine or the House at all. The Constantine seen here is an avatar of him derived from Zatanna's magic, a Zatanna recently amped massively by the World Tree. It is the love between the two that gives them the power to hold off Pralaya's assault, granted, which is consistent with their love being broken the cause of cracks in reality but even then, it is made clear that the defence wouldn't last for very long.
This feat does suggest some level of power to Constantine, but it also carries too many exceptional circumstances to be counted as attributable to him.
Binding Hecate
It was stated that Wonder Woman, when she possessed three-fifths of Hecate's power, was more powerful than any god who had ever walked the Earth. Given the Presence would be one of those gods, surely Constantine could threaten the Presence given that he bound Hecate?
Again, not exactly. Constantine explicitly notes that the reason his binding spell worked was because he connected it to the heart of magic, which was vulnerable at the time due to Hecate's power rewriting magic itself. Granted, Constantine being able to make this spell after having his demon blood removed and fighting against Hecate's magic altering nature is certainly impressive, but it can't be said to be John's own power. Constantine was able to use that magic to exorcise Hecate from Wonder Woman's body, despite Hecate being the source of magic itself, but in this case, Hecate was not at full strength. At the time, she was rewriting magic back to its original form, the form that she could most readily use. If she commanded magic itself without difficulty, she wouldn't have needed to rewrite it, so it is dubious to claim that Constantine directly overpowered Hecate with his innate power. Something backed up by John's claim that losing his demon blood made him pretty much helpless against such power.
The other question is whether John would have access to this level of power outside of this one occasion. And unfortunately, the answer is again no. This "heart of magic" was the mystical city of Nanda Parbat, its power channelled through the goddess Rama Kushna. When Hecate stormed the city in her quest to reunite all of magic beneath her once again, it collapsed under the onslaught and forced Rama Kushna to retreat. John achieved this feat via the raw power of the nexus point being made vulnerable due to Kushna's departure, given that even after Hecate conquered it, its magic was still necessary for Earth.
This isn't to say that John couldn't potentially replicate a similar feat under the right circumstances, as he has resorted to using external power sources repeatedly in the past, but achieving it on this level of power was highly circumstantial.
Wishing Matches and Swamp God
What of the Sphere of the Gods threatening the Source?
But isn't Magic Outerversal?
Oh boy, here we go.
This is a recent addition to the debate surrounding DC Cosmology, the question of whether or not the higher realms of the Sphere of the Gods and beyond qualitatively transcend the lower material realms beneath it. G1 have already done a good job explaining this in their Simon the Digger Vs Kyle Rayner blog, but I must give my own answer too. And the answer is also, unfortunately No. Despite transcending the Orrery of Worlds and the Speed Force breaking the laws of physics, the higher realms do not transcend the physics of said Orrery on a qualitatively superior level.
Essentially, the laws of physics remain embedded in creation up until you reach the Source Wall, which is the limit of the finite, the highest vibration before one enters the infinite. Beneath this, creation exists within vibrating superstrings as outlined by String Theory. Even the True Form of Darkseid created a gravitational singularity by falling onto the multiverse, implying a dimension of mass. Similarly, his True Form not only was shattered by Superman's counter vibration, but was forced to gather his lower emanations of energy from across the multiverse to regain his full power, something that should not have been necessary if his power was not defined in some form by certain laws of energy conservation. You can make the argument that his Boom Tubes warp occupants in both space and time to accommodate the transition to lower or higher realms, but it does not change the fact of his true form existing as some form of energy. Even with the Boom Tube amps, Orion still saw the worlds of the multiverse as merely smaller in size than his own form, Fourth World existing as a larger physical realm rather than anything more. The Fifth Dimension as well is not completely removed from this, as Gods have invaded it in the past and has been called a higher "mathematical" dimension. Even Hell itself, the realm from which John's demon blood originates, is noted to be a quantum dream, all realities and universes being one more dream of creation.
Above the Sphere of the Gods superstrings still exist, as does the multiverse. The Seven Forces of Creation are explicitly compared to strings resonating in harmony, these forces including the Collective Unconscious. It took reaching Limbo for the multiverse to "run out". Even the Monitor Sphere is not exempt from the Orrery "contaminating" it with time, which includes the Dark Monitor Mandrakk, who physically fell into the Dark Multiverse from the Monitor Sphere and was chained by Barbatos. Additionally, Superman in the Monitor Sphere still saw the universes as physically comparable in size to the Thought Robot, and while Mandrakk's city sized missiles were called infinitesimally small compared to the Monitor Sphere's perspective, infinitesimal still denotes a non-zero quantity. And considering that the Speed Force and Still Force were capable of collapsing Hypertime as well as disrupt the Sphere of the Gods, despite being far lower on the hierarchy of realms, these realms clearly are not different in terms of qualitative make-up.
The Dark Multiverse is not exempt from physics and mass either; an Anti-Life weakened Superman was able to physically harm Barbatos without any special means or Element X. And while Barbatos' shout disrupted the laws of physics, it is still denoted as anti-music, the opposite of the Seven Forces of Creation. An opposite that includes a Sphere of the Gods, the Dreaming, and the Collective Unconscious that remain bound by physics.
Besides, Barbatos is the creation of the World Forger, who with his brothers of the Monitor and Anti-Monitor exist in the 6th Dimension at the edge of creation. Yet despite representing the pinnacle of power, they are still defined by matter, anti-matter, and dark matter, for that is what they were made to govern and forge all creation from. The statement that they alter their "scale and pitch" implies they are still contained by string theory to an extent. With anti-matter being originally meant to seal all creation from the Overvoid in place of the Source Wall, this again shows that DC's Cosmology remains bound by matter and physics up to the Source Wall, which itself is still bound by dimensions.
What does this mean for magic though? Well, realms above the Sphere of the Gods and Collective Unconscious are not qualitatively superior to matter and physics, so obviously neither is magic. And this is far from the first time "scientific" entities have managed to affect magic. Black Manta made the point that magic is spun directly from quantum interactions within quarks, a direct link to physical science, specifically one that has been explored by scientific geniuses like Atom. Doctor Manhattan as well was able to comprehend and affect magic due to his connection to the Intrinsic Field as a "quantum lifeform". The magic of the Rock of Eternity is not exempt either, as it does possess qualities of physical energy. While this could be argued as a quirk of the Living Lightning rather than part of its fundamental nature, magic consistently finds itself contained by physical energies.
Though magic is described the impossible made possible, this is not a sufficient showing of Extended Modal Realm, and neither is the existence of the Dark Multiverse. Magic in its purest state, both with Hecate and the Upside-Down Man, is described as the light of possibility only, Upside-Down Man merely representing the "Dark" possibilities. This is not the same as allowing both the possible and impossible simultaneously.
As for the World Tree being stated as the origin of magic, which was what actually held back and ultimately defeated Pralaya, no-one had ever managed to access its level of power until being directly in its presence, so even if we did take it's origin as synonymous with Hecate's, no God or sorcerer has access to it. Both Zatanna and Swamp Thing had never encountered magic like the World Tree before despite Swamp Thing once breaching the Source Wall and both him and Zatanna having encountered the Great Darkness. If the Tree and thus Pralaya exist beyond the Source Wall, they also exist beyond the magic that the Sphere of the Gods can provide.
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Everything in Doctor Who media is stated to be canon (even the TV show). However, continuous rewrites and revivals of the show have created multiple separate continuities for the Doctor and his various incarnations within the comics series, the magazine strips, the New Adventures and the Virgin Missing Adventures, and the Big Finish Audio series. Though there have been many references between mediums and some crossovers (such as the Big Finish play Love and War being a direct adaptation of the novel of the same name), these continuities are frequently at odds with each other to the point that they cannot simply be explained as plot holes.
Doctor Who Cosmology
N-Space and the Web of Time
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The usual adventure zone for the Doctor and his companions, N-Space is an infinite realm, containing infinite O-regions (micro-universes) and multiple higher dimensions, anywhere from 12, 43, 249, all the way to infinite. The timeline of N-Space is composed of infinite potential surrounding fixed flux points in time on a deeper level of superstrings. Alongside variations of the same universe and brother & sister universes (the number contains several high-order infinities), there are at least 417 sets of "multiverses" within the Web of Time possessing radically different laws of physics and metadimensional subsets.
The outer edge of N-Space is shielded from outside forces by Urizen's Wall, an infinite series of hyperdimensional spheres acting as onion layers, which itself exists in a higher dimensional membrane containing countless bubble universes. On the outermost layer lies Lord Yog-Sothoth, a greater infinity than all the ones beneath that protects N-Space from outside powers. Urizen's Wall exists as part of the Web of Time, the living structure of history itself and a linear narrative of rationality as imposed on a metaphysical and Platonic level by the Time Lords. The Web is formed from the Ocean of Time, the sea of potential that holds all possible permutations and alternate versions of N-Space and drawn from the chaos of the pre-rational universe, written on the ultimate negation, overtime. Without the Eye of Harmony "observing" the multiverse, it would fall into the chaos of quantum uncertainty. The Anchoring ensures that history has a "purpose", a narrative.
All types of universe exist, operating with different languages, rules, structures, thoughts, and concepts. Operating under both Tegmark's Type IV Multiverse and possibly Brian Greene's Nine Types. There also exist voids of non-existence which still technically count as universes, as well as waystations such as the unfinite which grant access to each multiverse. The greater Omniverse is eternal, encompassing all existence, each multiverse being a tree in an infinite forest, divided into infinite clusters. Within this great unknown resides the Realm of the Immemorial Time Lord, where all of time is kept in a timeless, mythical, non-existent state, existing everywhere and nowhere. There also exists the Multivarium, the realm between all realms. As Time is the main catalyst for existence, Time's music is the theme that sets the entire omniverse in motion.
Conceptual Realms
The Land of Fiction
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The Time Vortex
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Beyond, between, and within all universes and multiverses, the Ultimate Void is the chasm where all things hang. Having existed before the Big Bang, it is an unreality without time, space, dimensions, direction, light, dark, or existence, both incomprehensibly large to the point where the infinite omniverse is "froth on a dark sea" against it and infinitesimally small. Absolutely nothing exists within the Void; no matter, no quantum fluctuation, no concepts or logic, for all things that enter are torn apart physically and ontologically across all directions and dimensions in a realm beyond the mind's understanding, left to drift within a transfinite unspace, an unreality
The Void is home to Elder Gods, Swimmers, and many of the Menti Celesti. It holds Limbo, a purgatory between this life and the afterlife, the realm of a Trickster, a dimensionless void without time or space, and the fate of those who are removed from existence. Through the Void is the way to Deathworld, the realm of Death itself, who himself is above the concept he represents. It is also defined by its abstracts, conceptual beings representing fundamental constants. And despite being literally nothing, it is somewhat sentient, desiring the consumption of everything.
Within the Void are infinite Voids-Within-Voids where Elder Beings like Sunyata reside, meta-concepts take on the form of Luminosity and Remembrance rather than conventional Space and Time, and "Hollows" lie reside beneath the Under-Universe of myth. Oxbow timelines exist here too, all the discarded what-ifs of nature, as well as those who have been erased from time, as the Doctor found himself after sealing the crack in the universe.
The Glory
The Glory is the focal point of the Omniversal Spectrum, the totality of existence that exists on a far higher plane of reality. It contains ever universe, multiverse and "infinite sphere of reality", even the Time Vortex being a mere tributary flowing into the Glory's "ocean of reality". At the nexus point, the multiversal streams overlap, every variety of the spectrum of realities mixing as one regardless of differing rules; all creation is linked to the Glory, for all existence is the Glory, infinite shards of one cosmic whole. This would include the Marvel Comics Universe, as Doctor Who was sold under Marvel during the 1980s, and the novel The Quantum Archangel makes various references to the Phoenix Force, Pym Particles, and the Shi'ar Empire. Until the Eighth Doctor met Esterath, every adventure he had had had been containd to his home multiverse rather than the Omniversal Spectrum.
He who controls the Glory controls all things, even above the level of the Six-Fold Realm, as the Master believed that his previous ventures at power were nothing in comparison. But since the Glory is pure power, it needs someone to wield it, one with sufficient force of will and strength of soul, arranging tournaments of champions to decide who is worthy of such control. Once the champion is chosen, they ascend to a higher existence above the Spectrum.
Reality, entropy, space-time, and all dimensions (including the Time Vortex and the Six-Fold Realm) can be reduced to ones-and zeroes, for creation is merely arithmetic made flesh. Quantum Information is what provides the bedrock for conceptual entities and is the essence of structure itself when mathematical concepts become too small to have any physical existence, instead existing within the mind of the observer. It is true reality, one that extends beyond existence and non-existence, and the point where the macro and micro intersect and lose all difference. The power of the observer effect is capable of affecting even the unreality of the Void between universes, objects existing in nothingness simply because one perceives them to be there. As consciousness is the purest form of matter, quintessence is the purest form of existence, dreams are perceptions unclouded by shadows of matter, the universe is secondary to the mind that perceives it, and all matter comes from and is transcended by the power of thought. Even the Glory is empty power without a consciousness to control it, their soul and belief being key to wielding its full potency.
It is theorized that if there is to be an "objective" timeline of creation that accounts for all changes to time and history, it must originate with a higher perspective, an outside observer. This in turn opens the theory of infinite observers each observing the previous perspective in order to give it reality, which must end in an Ultimate Observer beyond all others, i.e. God. This "God" would have evolved from the Noosphere of consciousness, transcending the "tangential energy" of physics into a purely metaphysical state. This God manifests its true form as an epistemological and apophatic space that defies all comparison and classification, even against the unreal knowableness of the Void. It is neither real nor unreal, existent or non-existent, living or dead. This "Anonymity" exists only in terms of what it cannot be, not what it is, the ultimate evolution and final point of humanity. It exists as the Omega Point of the universe, defined by communication and contact rather than physics.
This ultimate base layer, the mind on which life is painted, is beyond life, non-life, and death, and it is through biodata/observation that one alters it. This is also shown with the Abstracts of the Void, their own or other's perception of the Void allowing them to exist as its Embodiments despite its lack of ontology. It is also the method the Time Lords used to rationalize creation, their observation and that of the Eye of Harmony keeping existence from falling back into the state of chaos from which it sprung. The Observer Effect is related to the Kuhn Paradigm Shift, which holds all stories, retcons, equations, meta-fictions, and cosmologies within itself, acknowledging all the contradictions as part of itself. The real life Paradigm Shift is the philosophy of the core concepts of science and experimental principle changing on a fundamental level, which is the only way Chris Cwej could even attempt to rationalize the Carnival Queen's existence.
Beyond
The fundamental nature of a Time Lord warps reality around them, turning disorder into structure, as does their use of the Amaranth. But how far does this go against direct magical attack?
The effectiveness of this aura is rather inconsistent; in The City of the Dead, the Doctor's aura did not automatically protect him from Rust manipulating his energies, though he was able to seize control of the time spell Rust had placed on him with the power of his will. In The Legends of Camelot, the Doctor was similarly affected by the power of the Guardian of Magic when he walked into the enchanted forest that was designed to invoke fear in one's soul.
On the other hand, In Christmas on a Rational Planet, his "Caillou" aura intimidated the magic of the un-city into letting him through, magic spawned from the Carnival Queen, the embodiment of all magic in the multiverse. While the Carnival Queen had yet to fully materialize in the universe, her mere presence ripped holes in reality and summoned entities as powerful as the Toymaker, all the while claiming that even the Elder Gods were nothing to her. Additionally, it is seen that the Doctor directly imposed his will on the desert around the city to directly combat the irrational magic with rational thought. Add onto this that the Master has noted that Time Lords are immune to general spells, with the Sisters of Karn agreeing, and the Doctor's track record with magic does include some level of resistance to it.
At first it seems odd for the Doctor to negate the Carnival Queen's magic while being vulnerable to the spell of one human. However, looking deeper, there is some context to the Doctor's lower showings. Rust's magic was only able to affect the Doctor due to the Doctor's blood being inadvertently mixed with his own, Rust admitting he would not have been able to trap the Doctor otherwise. And while Dupre was also able to perform a summoning ritual on the Doctor, the Doctor at the time was suffering memory loss and considerable physical damage. Not to mention, Dupre's attempt to summon a demon through the Doctor went horribly wrong; rather than disintegrate the Doctor's body and serve Dupre, the Doctor was perfectly fine and Dupre was eaten. There is also the possibility that what was said to be magic was rather psychic or artron energy. This is consistent with the depiction of the Carrionites in The Shakespeare Code, whose "magic" was the use of psychic energy and words, their effects limited on those who were suffused with Artron energy due to being out of their own time period.
As for the Guardian of Magic, while their origins are unknown, the Champions (of which the Guardian of Magic is one of three) are said to originate in the universe before and after N-Space, which is similar to the origin of the Elder Gods, so to be affected by magic of an Elder God level being is actually quite far from a low showing for the Doctor. Not to mention, the power of the Time Vortex within the TARDIS was capable of resisting the pull of Merlin, the Champion of Neutrality, and damaged the prison holding the other Champions. This shows that the Doctor, at least when channelling the power of the TARDIS, which he has done multiple times, can counter magic to an extent. Thus, the Doctor's showings of dealing with magic do more consistently show a level of ability to negate or resist it.
Outerversal Doctor Who?
With all the higher dimensions and transcendent realms of Doctor Who, do any of them, and by extension the Doctor, scale to outerversal levels of power. The obvious caveat to this is that Doctor Who is a science fiction show, where everything is designed to have a scientific explanation, once that correlates to some manner of physical law or mathematics. So surely there is no room for qualitative superiority?
At first, there is precedent for this; while the Six-Fold-Realm is above the Time Vortex and beyond "rational" physics, it does not transcend physics altogether. Admittedly, given how many dimensions reside within N-Space alone, the term "11-Dimensional" refers more to planes of existence than physical dimensions. However, it is still accessible by quantum computers and altered equations of physics (such as E = mc4). You can even argue that the Void itself does not transcend all physics, as it still carries its own background radiation. It also contains Embodiments of the Void which, despite their conceptual nature, include embodiments of time and space.
Obviously, there are plenty of contradictory statements within Doctor Who due to the abundance of writers and material, but ultimately, due to the fundamental nature of Doctor Who being a science fiction franchise, it is ultimately more likely to be limited by the constraints of physics than not.
However, this is not reason enough to despair, fellow Outerversalists, for there is one very simple way to accommodate...............
Time Lords are literally stated to be more "real" than most other life-forms, existing outside the meta-structure of the reality they created. They have described machines that could turn fiction into reality (or vice-versa) as "childishly simple", which is supported by this extra layer of reality Time Lords possess. Time Lords are directly compared more than once to both Platonic Forms and Jungian Archetypes, pure ideas existing in transcendent realms outside of normal reality, only becoming dimensional, or "alive" upon leaving Gallifrey and entering the universe. Their "true" forms exist in meta-space, after all, their physical bodies little more than pretence and all life merely shadows cast by their forms and technology.
There is also the condition that the "universe" of the Anchoring did not simply succeed or even rewrite the Irrational Universe and Ancestor Universes; rather, it replaced them across all layers of existence so it appeared to an outside observer to have always have been that way. The Carnival Queen stated that the pre-Big Bang universe of the Elder Gods was in reality the pre-Anchoring universe, which can be backed up by the fact that despite all dimensions seemingly coming into existence with the Big Bang, the Eternal Elektra noted that the Time Vortex surpassed eternity itself, and was implied to have preceded the Big Bang altogether.
Well that's all well and good, but how can the Time Lords be Outerversal if their superiors in the Six-Fold-Realm are not? Simple. The Anchoring did not simply affect the physical universe, but every layer of reality. The Elder Gods, who exist outside the universe within the Void and the Six-Fold-Realm itself, were forced to surrender their control and power to the Watchmakers. This extended even to the Celestial Toymaker himself, who wanted the anchored universe to follow his "logic of play". And this is not the first time the Time Lords have threatened the Higher Realms despite occupying a supposedly inferior plane. Both the War in Heaven and the Time War damaged the Six-Fold Realm as mere side effects and caused the Guardians to flee rather than intervene. As for the Void, a single, massively outdated, prototype Type 1 TARDIS was capable of reducing all of creation back into the Void, which shows the sheer range of the Time Lords' power. The reason that all realms follow some version of physics is simply because the Time Lords wanted it that way, preferring a universe that could be measured rather than merely felt.
But perhaps the Transcendental Beings were simply bound by these rules from the beginning and therefore the Time Lords affecting them does not mean a thing. That leads us nicely into....
The Pantheon of Discord
A relatively recent addition to Doctor Who, the Pantheon of Discord are a collection of Eternals, Gods, and Guardians that exist beyond the conventional universe. They are also a group that have shown potential scaling to Reality>Fiction Transcendence, as multiple members have shown fourth wall awareness, and both the Toymaker and the Lux Imperator have shown potential to transcend the medium. The Toymaker invaded the very novelization of his episode, speaking directly to the reader and telling them which pages to turn to, while Lux Imperator addressed the audience directly and brought the Doctor and Belinda into a meta-fictional reality where their fans watched their adventures as TV episodes.
Whether this counts as Reality over Fiction... With Lux, it's questionable. First of all, the Doctor Who universe repeatedly mentions the existence of the television show Doctor Who, existing based on the accounts of the Doctor's real life adventures. Secondly, it is noted that Lux created this pocket realm rather than reaching it from his own universe. Given that all we see of the realm is the living room, it is dubious to say whether it extends to the entire universe of the real world. Lux himself is seen repeatedly using the medium of film to mess with his targets, mainly through him trapping his victims in celluloid film reels, so to jump from this to reality over fiction rather than the possibility that it is just one more film-related trick is not the best argument for reality transcendence.
The Toymaker is a different story. It is explicitly shown that the Toymaker managed to hijack the real-world novelization of his TV episode, with frequent taunts towards the Doctor and even allowing the reader to choose which path Donna travels down in his maze. This isn't simply a biased account told by the Toymaker either; rather, he took control of the novelization initially being written by James Goss, a real world author, up-ending it to provide his own commentary. This is pretty clear cut R>F, as given that Lux directly commented on the real world audience, the fact that his superior, the Toymaker took over his own novel is evidence that this is meant to be taken seriously as a fictional entity invading our real world, transcending the medium itself to reach higher, true reality. The Fifteenth Doctor even admitted that the 4th Wall Breaks and magical goblins were aftershocks of the Toymaker's incursion.
The Toymaker, while possessing multiple "emanations", forms, and conflicting origin stories, is noted to have drawn his power from the Cosmic Genesis, the same power source/irrational universe that spawned both the Elder Gods/the Enemy and the Carnival Queen. Which is also the same power the Time Lords draw from to rationalise creation, as the Toymaker was one of the Time Lords. These alternate "logics", whether of play or of mathematics, seem to be embodied by whoever wields them; since only one being chose play, all the power of play's "logic" became one with him.
If so, Time Lords being able to affect beings of this potential power with both their Anchoring and their wars is a pretty good scaling chain for Outerversal. And this hardly the first time the Time Lords have affected beings that can view all reality as fiction. Case in point being....
How valid this claim can be measured. The Enemy are repeatedly classed as "facts" of reality, proof that the Time Lords are not the centre of creation and not all powerful. When viewed in their natural domain, their timeships are seen as sheets of paper, their actions create the smell of ink, and their effects are literally read as words being written on a page. Similarly, though biodata and information form the bedrock of all things even as far as the Void, the Enemy could scrub it right out of existence. In the same way, the Enemy are said to embody a process rather than people, existing as archetypal and platonic enmity and rebellion that can turn reality into fiction from a higher plane. And all these statements are classed as metaphors for the Enemy, as their true existence is considered completely ineffable and incomprehensible. While it is a different entity, the Word is similarly presented as the literal "author" of existence, viewing the characters as literal characters of fiction compared to it.
Now we have the favourable statements, do we have anti-feats to go with it? Given there is very little information on the real world, and that the identity of the Enemy is deliberately left ambiguous, it is difficult to suggest how far we can take this scaling. If we place the Enemy as any of the other suggestions, be it Great Spiders, the Daleks, the Doctor, or Mammoths, these entities are technically physical beings, regardless of whether they can ascend to higher meta-fictional ability. While lower manifestaions of the Enemy are witnessed, they are just that; manifestations. Similar to Time Lords, they are emanating lower avatars to interact with history the same way the Time Lords do. And Time Lords affecting the pre-established fictional medium has happened before. Iris Wyldthyme could directly alter the pre-ordained outcome of the narrative by looking outside it, the narrative being that of the very book being written about her, and was stated to have grown beyond the control of the "Word" that literally wrote all of creation as entities for his own fictional work from a higher plane. Simiarly, a member of Faction Paradox was able to survive as a non-existent entity after the author erased from reality the story he was in, interacting with the story via footnotes.
The Enemy is noted as the very concept of opposition and negation; it lacks real motive, and will never be satisfied, for it exists only to negate the narrative the Time Lords spun for creation. This concept of negation is more widely known as...
Apophatic Theology: Anonymity and the Carnival Queen
Anonymity is the final endpoint of human evolution, drawn from the Great Houses tampering with the biodata of humans from the successor universe. At first, since biodata technically falls within what the Time Lords classify as science, it would appear that she must logically be constrained by the principles of physics, but not so. She is repeatedly described as a completely unknowable entity, beyond classification of even conceptual mathematics. Even the unreality of the Void cannot compare to her, for at least said unreality is knowable, whereas Anonymity herself is completely unknowable. The only thing that can define her is the fact that she cannot be defined in any way, a direct homage to Apophatic Theology, the idea that God can only be defined as what He is not. No perception, observation, or technology could comprehend anything about her, for she is said to transcend such things as paradoxes. As per the definition of the Omega Point that Anonymity represents, she has ascended/evolved into a metaphysical entity.
The Carnival Queen is another example, as her descriptions and nature resemble Anonymity's; as the embodiment/source of all magic and irrational powers banished by the Time Lords, she contains infinite impossibilities of irrationality and unreason, beyond cause and effect, beyond the principles of growth, change, loss, and rebirth. She exists in an endless state of contradiction, existing as every possible and impossible event throughout all creation, against which even the Elder Gods and Guardians came up short. As the "shadow" of creation, she transcends Death itself, death in the magical, religious, ultimate sense, existing beyond the purgatory of wayward souls and the null-space of the Void where Deathworld resides, which is the way to the afterlives that do exist within the cosmology. And the power that makes her is not only one of souls, but of the same Cosmic Genesis that empowered the Time Lords to perform the Anchoring in the first place. Chris Cwej representing her as a Kuhn Paradigm Shift, something that encompasses all contradictions and meta-fictional powers, was merely his own failed attempt to make sense of her.
Both Anonymity and the Carnival Queen are creations of the Time Lords, both existing beyond possibility as an impossible contradictory entity. This falls in line with EMR containing impossible natures beyond space and time. Remember, EMR states modality as a third factor to existence separate entirely from Time and Space. That the Time Lords could alter a modality that includes impossibilities beyond conception reinforces their repeated claims of superiority and transcendence above the rest of existence. Not to mention, worlds within standard Modal Realism's possibilities include those that do not operate with the same laws of physics as N-Space, such as Nobody Noone's universe of pure language. And this is one of the universes that remained after the Anchoring removed all impossibilities. To affect or become realms that remained impossible beyond this standard of reality strongly suggests qualitative superiority.
Remember, the Modal aspect of reality completely transcends the physical, metaphysical, and logical aspects, given it allows both possible and impossible states of being in all three. This state matches the base levels of reality, that of the irrational universe/Cosmic Gensis in Doctor Who, a limitless potential beyond all states of being that the Time Lords successfully altered during the Anchoring of the Thread. This change is what the Carnival Queen was borne from; it is what the Enemy are trying to undo and their avatars are borne from, and it still left enough potential to allow apophatic states of being like Anonymity to exist and Elder Gods like the Toymaker to transcend the bounds of reality and invade the real world. Obviously, the Carnival Queen and the Enemy are suggested to be more powerful entities compared to the Time Lords (depending on the timeline) but given that their power comes from the same source, the Cosmic Genesis that the Time Lords were capable of manipulating through observation, the Time Lords can certainly be said to reach this tier of power. Especially given that the Time Lords were the ones who banished their powers in the first place.
Time and Gods of the Fourth
How does this relate to the Doctor?
The Doctor, despite not usually having access to the technology the Time Lords used to achieve such feats, has frequently contended with beings as powerful as the Guardians and the Pantheon of Discord, both with the TARDIS and the Key to Time. With the Moment, he has access to a weapon that no Time Lord would dare use that was capable of permanently ending the War in Heaven, which scales it above the creation of Anonymity and the Enemy operating from the "real" world of the writers. And despite obviously not matching the Carnival Queen, his force of will/aura of rationality was capable of contending with her magic to a certain extent as its antithesis.
So yes, the Doctor can be scaled to Outerversal levels of power due to his ability to frequently contend with the Transcendental Beings that have surpassed the shadows of matter and space-time based reality, but have reached the higher world of the viewers of his adventures. His Time Lord Mind powers grants him access to the Outerversal Mind of the Ultimate Observer, which manifests in his Caillou aura that has matched the Modal Impossibilities of the Carnival Queen.
Low Showings/Anti-Feats?
Remember though, this is simply their physical form, a limited physical projection of their true form that exists in higher dimensions. Their bodies are considered ugly pretence, a parody of flesh. Whether through Vortex energies like Artron or Chronon power or the Ultimate Observer, a Time Lord's power is of the mind and perception; the Time Vortex contains the Astral Plane of psychic power, psychic power being able to change the fabric of reality with one's thoughts. It is through the observation of existence that Time Lords control it, their choice to view reality a certain way making it so. It is also implied that Time Lords view "lower" species of matter and limited dimensions to be beneath them, hence why most of them do not leave Gallifrey at all.
As to why Time Lords do not use such power to fashion themselves more capable bodies less susceptible to damage, they certainly can; Wartime regenerative process was capable of evolving Time Lords into armoured bio-soldiers, primordial dragons, and even voids of entropy. That this is the exception on average is due to preserving the Web of Time. A Time Lord's mere presence can freeze all of causality or dissolve it into chaos, and their "real" bodies in physical space eclipse stars in size. This is why the Time Lords observe, limiting their influence so not to cause undue damage and to allow other species to forge their destinies without fear of tyranny.
Verdict
Stats
Stats are a funny thing to talk about with these two; they are both schemers who prefer to outwit their opponents, yet possess some of the most busted arsenals in all of media.
With their pure physical condition, Time Lords are naturally stronger and tougher than humans, able to rip stone apart and crush objects to dust in their grip, while John's best showings are of decapitating a vampire and winning fist fights. If examining higher finite feats, the Doctor has far more showings of destructive capability and range. Constantine's best finite showings barely going past building level, whereas the Doctor's screwdriver alone has frozen tsunamis and injured sentient stars. With the regulator being powered by one billion supernovas and the TARDIS stated to be capable of swallowing or nuking galaxies, the gap widens.
But obviously, their showings of higher dimensional power are the real factors at play here. Both John and the Doctor scale to plenty of factions and characters that have threatened their universse and multiverses who were stated capable of affecting entire realities. Once again, the advantage goes to the Doctor; taking into account dimensional layers, DC's caps out at 28-dimensions, while the Doctor's goes up to 249 numbered dimensions with an equally valid claim on there being infinite dimensional space, whereas it has been debunked that DC's cosmology is infinitely layered within the Orrery of Worlds. Even downplaying the Doctor's end to what the Doctor has personally shown, the TARDIS could turn 37-dimensional space inside out, and the Doctor is capable of perceiving, and thus interacting with 43 dimensions.
Both cosmologies possess a hierarchy of transcendent layers, and it is here John puts up the best fight; repeatedly messing with the power of the Green, resisting the power of Deadman who could do the same, and affecting angelic entities like Zauriel, Spectre, and Phantom Stranger readily puts him on the scale of affecting the Sphere of the Gods, while his Blackmare Form could trade blows with beings from the tier above it in the Collective Unconscious. However, the Doctor is no slouch in this category either; his TARDIS and his own chronon energy has affected the Time Vortex and the Lampreys that control it, with the Key to Time being superior to the Guardians of the Six-Fold Realm above the Vortex.
In terms of scaling these realms, the Collective Unconscious surpasses the Sphere of the Gods, whose main realms transcend the Elemental Realms of the Green, Red, Rot, and so on. These in turn transcend both the Bleed and the Speed Force Wall, the latter of which is the limit to the Orrery of Worlds. In comparison, the Six-Fold-Realm transcends the Time Vortex, which in turn transcends the Conceptual Realms. These are higher realms than the Second Aether that holds the mulitverses in check, which are greater in scale than Urizen's Wall and the Web of Time that transcend N-Space.
With both scaling roughly four layers above the infinite multiverse, this at first seems to be a roughly even peak for both. But then the "Six" in Six-Fold-Realm comes into play; each of the six dimensions transcends the one below it, the base layer being Eternity, home of the Eternals that look down on Time Lords as nothing. Remember, the Time Vortex as the 5th Dimension is an infintely transcending hierarchy of layers that go beyond physics and concepts, and the Six-Fold-Realm is the six dimensional layers above it. And considering that normal time is the fourth dimension and the Time Vortex is the fifth, this implies a gargantuan leap between each higher dimension far beyond simply one additional geometric dimension. Not to mention, the Web of Time/N-Space by itself is considered a conceptual, Platonic entity, as are the Time Lords, so you can argue the Vortex is three layers into Platonic realms while the Collective Unconscious is only two. This does admittedly get a little too theoretical to say for certain, but either way, the Doctor remains in the lead.
A lead that only increases when we look to the apex of their cosmologies; John has never come close to reaching the realms of the 6th Dimension and the Monitors above the Collective Unconscious, either by himself or through direct scaling; the Doctor on the other hand can and has; fusing with a protoype TARDIS far less capable than his own wiped out all creation on the level of the Void, while both Faction Paradox and the Daleks have harnessed the creatures and energies of the Void like the Leviathans/Swimmers. Remember, the Mind and Time, both of which the Vortex harnesses, reaches beyond all layers of realms and reaches Modal Impossibility and Metafictional transcendence.
And Constantine has the disadvantage of the rules of magic; cost. With Hecate, Upside-Down Man, and Blight, all beings of the Collective Unconscious' level of power, Constantine has only ever matched their tier with considerable outside help or through desperate last-resort techniques like the God-Killer Spell and the Blackmare Curse, both of which risked considerable damage to his body and soul. This has extended to beings like Phantom Stranger and Spectre, who occupy the lower Sphere of the Gods; Constantine would've lost an arm and a leg binding Spectre, and while he has summoned Phantom Stranger with little difficulty, he required a 12 hour ritual to incapacitate him and the other two of the Trinity of Sin. The Doctor's TARDIS, Moment, and the Key to Time have reached this level of power without being desperate last resorts, and can be used repeatedly without cost, so John's power, even if comparable, will run out far quicker.
Now, it can be argued that given how lower realms like the Speed Force could affect the Sphere of the Gods and Gods like Zeus and Darkseid could challenge the Source, scaling John to the CU and Sphere could potentially allow him to reach the lower realms of Outerversal at most. This requires a fair amount of leeway, and this methodology applies to the Doctor far more easily and with far more examples; the Time Vortex was able to annihilate Sutekh, whom not even the Toymaker believed he could face, despite having the power to transcend the fictional medium itself and take control of The Giggle's novelisation. Not to mention, the only entity on the level of power of the Overvoid that John has actively tried to combat was the Great Darkness, something that saw the combined efforts of Constantine, Zatanna, and Zatarra among others as gnats to shake off, and effortlessly stomped both Doctor Fate and the Spectre without even trying to, a feat John has never come close to replicating.
Finally, there are the truly outerversal realms of the Overoid/Greater Omniverse and Creation's Shadow/The Real World. Considering that the Doctor also draws on the power of the Mind, the Ultimate Observer that views and defines all existence on a comparable scale to the Primal God, that God being exemplified in apophatic beings like the Enemy, Anonymity, and the Carnival Queen, who each in turn embody the modal impossibilities of EMR, and the Doctor easily reaches into Outerversal ranges, especially with how both the Enemy and the Carnival Queen are the equivalent of the Writer of the Real World that the Time Lords could fight against, especially with the Moment. This is a level of power John has no showings of approaching in any regard, and so the Doctor takes a massive advantage in power.
In terms of speed, there is quite honestly no finite speed feat in all of DC that compares to the Doctor locking horns with the supercomputer that could process millions of universes at once, let alone from Constantine. And in terms of infinite/immeasurable feats, the Doctor has far more showings of directly moving beyond conventional time, whether by himself of with the TARDIS. Constantine has a few debatable showings at best; getting the drop on the First of the Fallen is never shown or even implied to be anything speed related, and John's Synchronicity Wave is more hax related than anything to do with speed. Briefly outrunning Zauriel from the shores of Heaven is a better example, as is reacting to the Spectre's fist, who was noted to be out for blood. Quantifiably though, the Doctor has more reliable statements, so he clinches the advantage.
Overall, while the two are surprisingly comparable with transcendent realms, the Doctor simply outclasses Constantine in practically every regard with both low and higher ends. This is a virtually insurmountable gap for Constantine to cross, and so he will be fighting an uphill battle. The Doctor has far more ways to scale him to qualitatively superior planes, while Constantine's path requires a lot more interpretation and guesswork and consistently caps out at lower levels, the same being the case with speed.
The Doctor takes Stats.
Arsenal and Abilities
However, both characters are known for their tendency to repeatedly defy the odds against much more powerful beings, so a gap in power is by no means a game-ending problem. Now we must look at their abilities and arsenal.
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Ironically, the Doctor has Constantine outgunned in terms of the sheer quantity of his arsenal. But does this translate to quality too? Both can fire energy blasts, form protective forcefields, teleport, turn invisible, time travel, control the elements, heal themselves, negate sealing and barriers, and immobilize opponents. Both can also resist conceptual diseases and reality warping biological warfare like with the Rot and the Yssgaroth, so neither could infect the other.
The Doctor's ranged weapons do pack more variety than Constantine's, many being able to bypass and stunt regeneration, shrink targets or disintegrate someone on an atomic level, as Constantine has never shown the ability to resist size manipulation or healing negation. These may not matter given Constantine's Twinblade, which would instantly kill the Doctor if it reached him, but the Doctor's D-Mat Gun and Dimension Vault would do the same right back, making this less about particular weapons and more about speed, which given their comparable showings would cancel out. So it is through each individual ability that we must compare the two.
Time Manipulation
Both can travel through time, move outside of it, and alter it various ways. However, John's abilities will be useless against the Doctor. The Doctor's nature makes him to immune to being frozen in time or cast outside of it, which are the only two offensive options John has. On the defensive side, John has shown no resistance to temporal attacks, which leaves highly vulnerable. Not only can the Doctor freeze John in time, banish him to another realm entirely, his pendant can keep him ahead of John in time (assuming their immeasurable speed feats are not applied). Granted, John's Wave Synchronicity has allowed him to "skip" ahead in time, but this has never been used in combat, only as a way to get him to destinations quickly. Even if it could be used this way, Time Lord auras can directly cancel out temporal powers like resistance to time manipulation, enabling the Doctor to trap John in the here and now. Also, the Chronic Tripwire could instantly age Constantine to dust before he knew what had hit him.
Wave Synchronicity vs Caillou Meta-Space
An always active get-out-of-jail-free deus ex machina, both Constantine and the Doctor passively warp reality around them to achieve a favourable outcome, essentially playing with loaded dice. Constantine's version relies on Quantum Magic, while the Doctor's relies on higher dimensional space, but both involve warping probability. Constantine is more aware of this ability and has used it to greater effect, seeing as how he can use to give another bad luck or teleport himself. However, the Doctor technically has more experience fighting opponents with similar abilities, as every Time Lord possesses this ability, yet the Doctor has frequently bested the Master, the Rani, Rassilon, Omega, and so on. John did kill his brother who had a more powerful version of WS, but he was completely unaware said WS was being used on him, and John killed his brother within his own mind with a quick attack, which shows WS is not infallible. Not to mention, Constantine has noted that WS has limits to how much he can use it before needing to rest, whereas the Doctor has no such limit stated. Both methods drain luck from around them, so neither could rely on it to wear the other down.
There is the fact that John's Wave Synchronicity allows him to teleport between locations. However, this ability has only ever been seen getting Constantine into situations rather than out of them, teleporting him to get to the problem that requires his intervention. It doesn't seem to be a instinctive reaction sort of teleport, so we cannot just assume he can just spam teleportation with it, particularly when he's going up against someone with exactly the same ability.
Overall, the Doctor likely has a very small advantage in having fought through similar abilities in the past, something Constantine himself has never shown. However, this is a tiny advantage that isn't enough to gain the edge single-handedly.
Reality Warping
Excluding their trump cards, the Doctor has several reality warping machines that can alter the world around him, the Amulet especially a great danger to Constantine. While John's wards could mitigate some of the damage in all likelihoodit would not be able to negate it outright. John has undone physical-spiritual inversion and cast illusions that warp space-time, but he's never completely rewritten any part of reality to the same extent the Doctor has, whereas the Doctor could easily rewrite the Laws of Physics. Discounting Wave Synchronicity's ability to operate across all of space time and the House of Mystery potentially teleporting him out of harm's way (we'll get to both later), the Doctor will have far more ways to shift the battlefield to one of his design, while his own resistances and reality inhibitor will prevent John from attempting the same. While Dream's Sand is a deadly weapon that can rewrite conceptual stories, given that the Doctor could wrestle the Master of the Land of Fiction for control even while said Master was attempting to literally write him out of the plot, the Doctor could just as easily hijack the Sand for his own or negate it entirely.
Magic vs Mind
At first, John seems to have the advantage here, given that he has most of his abilities being natural magic, whereas the Doctor usually relies on tech to pull off his craziest feats. Both have telepathy, hypnosis, telekinesis through psychic power, and can reach across time and space but John has control over the elements, energy constructs, and can force reality to obey him through force of will.
Unfortunately, this is completely negated by one word; principle.The Doctor actively limits his power in his travels so not to disrupt the course of time and prevent himself from falling into the corruption of power. In reality, his Time Lord physiology allows him to eclipse stars in size, warp reality with his presence, erase entire timelines with a look, and command the deepest layers of existence with his mind.
These abilities blow John's out of the water. His chronon energy blasts will erase any attack coming his way, his Artron energy's non-physical nature will allow him to bypass John's wards and dimensional manipulation, and his rational aura being able to construct creations of pure order from raw matter, his android capable of contending with a gynoid that bypassed space-time and existed in multiple locations simultaneously, will quickly overwhelm John's psychisms. There is also the issue of range; John has shown interstellar attack ranges on one ocasion while facing Darkseid, and that required the power of dozens of souls. Time Lords can simply look at the stars from light years away and make them real across billions of years. A rogue Time Lord's mere perception threatened to destabilize the entire universe in the past, which the Doctor should scale to, so this is consistent.
With the God of the Fourth abilities, this gap in ability is most apparent; the Ultimate Observer is the Mind that views oall creation from outside and the Time Lords can alter it. With simple commands, the Doctor could kill John instantly, strip him of his powers, or just say no to all of his attacks. John has warped reality and reflected attacks back at the casters, but turning a cloth into a feather is not comparable to painting all of time and space, and given his power is linked to the deepest level of reality of the Ultimate Observer, the Doctor could just overwhelm John's defences through brute force. John could potentially negate this with his own force of mind, but he has never done so against a foe as powerful as the Doctor.
Demon Blood vs Regeneration
The Doctor has no equivalent to such reanimation. He does, however, possess the TARDIS, which has created paradoxes in the Doctor's death in order to undo it. He also possesses other incarnations which can travel back in time to prevent such death form occurring in the first place. This process can be circumvented by beings that do not operate under the same laws of chronology like Nobody-Noone, but Constantine does not fall under this category.
Constantine is not dependent on outside help to revive himself as the Doctor is, granting him a greater advantage in protecting his vulnerability. The Doctor having multiple future incarnations to call on to rewrite his death does grant him the advantage of numbers and the ability to win a war of attrition. This ultimately gives the Doctor to prolong the fight more times than Constantine can.
Senses, Illusions, and Precognition
This is not helped by the sheer range of the Doctor's perception, as he has repeatedly sensed the motion of planets and stars, the sounds of the universe, telepathic calls from other universes and the entire multiverse. This range also extends across time, as he once sensed his companion Sam was in danger despite being divided by several million years.
Inevitably, the Doctor is going to see through John almost instantly and have foreknowledge on just about everything John can throw at him, making it unlikely for John's illusions to not be seen through, especially given that said illusions require twisting space-time, which the Doctor will sense pretty much immediately. In fairness, John's best illusions will certainly give the Doctor a headache trying to escape them, but as long as he knows that they are illusions, he will likely be able to dispel them. Anyone who could fight through the illusions of the Matrix (which could contain infinite conceptual multiverses) will be difficult to trap.
The best tool the Doctor has in this category is the Arkion Device; it created a perfect copy of the universe of N-Space from the TARDIS databanks that not even a 12th dimensional computer could detect discrepancies in. Though Constantine can detect shifts in reality to an extent and see through illusions, he's never been shown extending his senses through dimensions. However, this copy was based on N-Space from the TARDIS's knowledge, a universe distinctly without a strong magical presence. The moment John felt the lack of magical currents, he would realize he was being deceived, making the tool useless.
Onaverage, the Doctor has better senses for seeing through illusions, while Constantine has better illusions to throw, meaning both cancel out. With precognition, the Doctor blows John out of the water, giving him a sizable advantage in outmaneouvring John.
Both pack some incredible psychic ability, but outside of general hypnosis, their strength is usually shown in what they're able to resist. Constantine has resisted both Pandora's Box and the Books of Magic attempting to corrupt him, while the Doctor has managed to hold conceptual entities like the Shift in his mind. Both have also held off higher dimensional beings like Swamp Thing and the Eternals, and both have managed to temporarily hold back forces of Abstract Nothingness and Chaos, so both will have great difficulty attempting to affect the other. The Doctor's usual M.O is for an enemy to attempt to break his mind, only for the Doctor to overload it with the sheer size of his, while Constantine's mind is just "filthy" enough to shrug off mental interference, so both again would cancel out. Since both are usually reactive in showing off their mental fortitude, neither would likely resort to mental attacks unless the other struck first.
When one does strike first though, who would have the best chance? In terms of offensive power, the Doctor has better feats, having overpowered Gods and the Matrix in mental warfare. While John's spells have managed to put Swamp Thing to sleep on occasion, Swamp Thing does not have too many high end mental defence showings, mainly regeneration. Still, scaling John's offence to his defence should again make it dead even in terms of power. Remember that Gods of the Fourth draw their power directly from the mind, the Mind that is the Ultimate Observer which underlays all creation? Comparing cosmologies, the Doctor may possess superior potency overall by scaling his observation to the Anchoring of the Thread, but this is getting hypothetical in nature, so for now, power should overall even out between the two.
However, this brings up the problem of layered defences. A Time Lord's mind is by nature gigantic, making it possibly difficult to for John to navigate it. There is also the fact of the Guardians of the Edge existing as a natural defence. With the Doctor's mind being able to banish Jungian Archetypes, overpowering it will be a tough task even for John, whose mental abilities do not reach that far normally. His limit usually caps out at the Elemental Realms. Still monumentally impressive, but the Realms are on the lower layer of the Sphere of the Gods, which in itself is transcended by the Collective Unconscious that the Doctor's archetypes scale to. Granted, the cosmologies for each are different, but they are both several layers above the infinite multiverse and a layer beyond conceptual realms. The Doctor also has the advantage that he can cast out invasive minds and banish them to another dimension, something John's mind has never done before. This wouldn't be a trump card for the Doctor though, as John can survive outside his body and just force his mind/soul back in. There is also little to suggest that the Doctor can use these options in attacking another mind, as he has never done so outside of general hypnosis.
Unfortunately, one thing the Doctor has in abundance is support; with plenty of devices to lessen psychic attacks, he can at the very least reduce John's influence on him. While most of these items do not translate to offensive output, it does at least mean the Doctor will be the less exhausted of the two in an event of tug of war. This changes with the inclusion of the TARDIS though; the TARDIS is telepathically linked to the Doctor, and connects directly to an infinite supply of Artron energy from the Vortex, something the Doctor has used to his advantage in channelling psychic attacks. Regardless of whether the Vortex's power matches John's mentally, the Doctor has an inexhaustible supply of power to constantly rejuvenate him, meaning that John will eventually exhaust himself and leave himself vulnerable regardless if on offense or defense. Besides, the TARDIS is a formidable mental presence herself, as its entire infinite hyperdimensional form is manifested through sheer force of will and has held off attacks from the omniscient supercomputer the Matrix. And with enough psychic power, the Doctor can negate any psychic attack thrown at him.
Both can roughly equate in power, but the Doctor's far superior longevity would ultimately exhaust Constantine and leave him completely exposed should one turn it into a war of attrition.
Trump Cards
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With Dream's Sand and the Gauntlet, both Constantine and the Doctor are capable of embedding ideas in the collective consciousness of entire civilizations. While neither have ever used the ability to warp reality, it is made very clear that it would be more than possible to do so. Both make reference to the power of belief being capable of shaping existence, with the realms of dreaming being higher, archetypal, conceptual realms in both cosmologies. Both also have been capable of traversing the CU and battling archetypal monsters like Blight and the Timewyrm. And both are capable of using these items to negate manipulation of the Collective Unconscious, making it pretty dead even.
Sealing and Binding
Both have frequently imprisoned god-like entities in various dimensional traps or bindings. Assuming one could get the opportunity to do so to their opponent, would this be an instant game over?
Both can additionally restrain enemies in the heat of combat, as Constantine did against Hecate and the Doctor did against the Vortex Butterfly. Both can also teleport out of prisons, though Constantine can do this more easily with his magic, while the Doctor's teleportation is more hit-or-miss. Both can also force reality to re-order itself to their liking through force of will, as Constantine did resist the inversion of the physical and spiritual dimensions, and the Doctor forced the magic of the Carnival Queen to order itself around him.
However, the Doctor does have some resistance to being sealed, as being a Time-Lord and a Complex Space-Time Event, he can ignore reality warps to a certain extent, while John has no natural resistance to it. Still, while the Doctor has plenty of experiencing escaping prison dimensions given time, he lacks showings of directly breaking through said barriers with his own power, usually requiring the TARDIS to do so if he can't solve his way out of the puzzle. Constantine has escaped traps and magic bindings before, and has resisted reality-warping from Darkseid (though this took considerable effort and he ultimately bested Darkseid through trickery, since this warp was just a side effect of Darkseid's presence rather than an attack).
However, the Doctor's sealing is usually more lethal than Constantine's, as his ability to BFR someone to either the Time Vortex or the Void means throwing them into a realm where they are ripped apart physically, temporally, and conceptually. This is balanced out (at first) by John's shields, which were able to prevent him and his alternate version's family from being ripped apart between dimensions and allow them to traverse the realm of the Rot (essentially higher-dimensional decay) with no ill efffects. Granted, the Rot decays its victims into mindless puppets rather than outright destroying them, so it is possible that John has never had to contend with erasure/dissolution on the level of Vortex/Void, which is supported by the fact that he and Nightmare Nurse could only temporarily hold back the existence erasure of the Between Place. This would suggest that prolonged exposure to such energies could permanently incapacitate John. Unfortunately, since Constantine can teleport across and out of higher dimensions, it's unlikely he would remain long enough for that to happen.
Ultimately, the Doctor's seals are more dangerous for those trapped inside, but Constantine's seals are harder for the Doctor to escape without the TARDIS, and both have plenty of methods of escaping.Once again, neither takes the edge.
Can the Doctor escape the House of Mystery?
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The TARDIS can enter virtually any existence be it mental, physical, or void. Even if she cannot get into the House, she can certainly surround and "devour" it; it has frequently swallowed planets, galaxies, and higher dimensional realms. Likewise, John has an ace in the hole that the House can teleport John back to it whenever he is in danger, and we have seen powerful irrational entities like the Carnival Queen ultimately overcome the TARDIS's shielding. And if the House can't bring John to it, it will go to John, even when needing to overcome Zatanna's own psychic power to do so. But if the two vessels came into direct conflict, who would emerge victorious?
Both being living ideas capable of travelling anywhere and hiding from reality destroying gods like Sutekh and Pralaya, it could be an endless game of cat and mouse. When out in the open though, the TARDIS again claims the advantage. The most damning evidence of this is that the House by itself has very few offensive options that can extend all that far beyond the House, most of its tricks being on the inside save for its psychic link with John. At most, its merging into the House of Wonder affected a city and could've transformed an entire planet when possessed by two beings drawing power from the Justice League Dark. The TARDIS on the other hand can materialize around entire galaxies and draw all universes into itself with a thought.
The TARDIS is also far more intelligent and has far, FAR more abilities, such as phasing, dimensional manipulation outside of itself, time altering, reality increasing quotients, probability manipulation and so on, which it can apply to outside its dimensions to affect universes. Granted, a lot of these abilities would be unlikely to put down the House, but it does give the TARDIS more options in keeping the House on the back foot. Besides, the TARDIS also has far more experience combatting all-powerful entities like the Memeovore, Quantum Archangel, and the Guardians than the House has ever shown.
The House of Mystery was capable of hiding from Pralaya, who destroyed all of creation, but it has never shown tracking abilities on par with the TARDIS like monitoring thousands of timelines, scanning billions of light years, examining infinite posibilities and finding anomalies in the Void itself. Similarly, it has never been shown bypassing conceptual barriers like the TARDIS infiltrating Gallifrey's defences
In terms of durability and regeneration, both exist as living ideas/equations, both of which can draw power from stories and memories. The Doctor has rigged the TARDIS to absorb ideas in the past, but it is debatable if it could forcefully absorb the House this way. In terms of survivalbility, the two should be roughly even.
While both are loyal allies and powerful entities, the TARDIS just has the House outgunned.
Just because the Doctor can negate magic from his universe doesn't necessarily mean that he can negate DC's magic, only if magic is similar enough in nature across verses. Magic in DC has been described by Doctor Manhattan as the scraps of creation, but other sources consistently place it as the spark of possibility, the power of potential within the higher Sphere of the Gods and Collective Unconscious, not simply irrational chaos. It can be described as irrational though, as it's whole process is forcing the universe to give you what you want without having to work for it, reality being secondary to desire.
So does DC's magic prove unstoppable to the Doctor? Surprisingly, no. DC Magic being both the light of possibility and the discarded scraps of creation is almost exactly the same nature as the Carnival Queen being the discarded magic of infinite possibilities from the Dark Times. In fact, the magic of the Carnival Queen transcends this, as it encompasses all impossibilities of Extended Modal Realism, whereas DC's magic is more akin to standard Modal Realism. And chaos magic is no exception to this, given that the Carnival Queen was doing away with all principles, timelines, and cause and effect. This extends to DC magic being conceptual in nature; the Doctor's existence as a God of the Fourth puts him in communion with/makes him the mind behind the universe, the mind that is the ultimate observer/plot of reality and the data set that makes up an object's ontological nature (22:30). None of this makes the Doctor immune to magic, but it does suggest an ability to interact with it as easily as he interacts with every other power, especially with psychic energy being synonymous with magic in some dimensions.
That being said, while the Doctor's nature may be able to affect magic, that doesn't necessarily mean his technology can, seeing as it is primarily based within physics, right? The main issue to this idea is just that though; physics. As G1 explained in their Simon vs Kyle blog, the Sphere of the Gods and even the Collective Unconscious do not transcend physics entirely, with hints of physical matter and higher-dimensional string theory composing it. Doctor Manhattan, a being connected to the theoretical physics of the Intrinsic Field (or Connective Energy) was able to handle magical attacks and disperse them with little difficulty. Even the Anti-Life equation, despite being a philosophical concept, is based on mathematics and originates from the Antimatter Universe. Add onto this that both Wave Synchronicity and general magic operate on the quantum scale, something the Doctor and Time Lords have little difficulty affecting, and DC magic is not beyond being affected. Even Hell itself, the realm from which John's demon blood originates, is noted to be a quantum dream, all realities and universes being one more dream of creation. While not all of the Doctor's technology targets on a quantum level, a lot of it does, and considering that Time Lords can manipulate biodata, which extends deeper than the quantum level, it should not be out of the Doctor's ability to mess with magic.
Granted, Constantine has managed to use magic when it was not readily available, opening a portal when vampires had removed most of Earth's magic and binding Hecate even as she was rewriting magic underneath her. Still, these were either one off displays or when he had access to a greater pool of power, as he had access to the dying heart of magic when fighting a Hecate that wasn't at full power. So Constantine is far from immune from the effects himself, and with the power of the Doctor and the Amaranth, it could pose a serious threat. There is also the fact that Merlin himself believed thathe could not overturn the Laws of Time as put in place by the Time Lords, which further implies the power of the Time Lords remains capable of affecting magic.
But what of the Doctor's lack of showings? Well, this can simply be answered as due to restraint. The Doctor deliberately nerfs himself and his power to interact with creation without breaking it. If he truly felt the need and could do so without worrying for consequences, he could. This is the guy whose true body eclipsed a star after all. Remember, it was the act of Time Lords merely observing the multiverse as having no magic that allowed the Anchoring to completely purge all magic from it. Still, it is debatable if the Doctor would ever resort to going all out in this manner, as he has only ever properly displayed his true power when backed into a corner or facing the end of the age of Time Lords.
So ultimately, while it is unlikely that the Doctor would immediately resort to nullifying John's power or be able to prevent John from casting any spells, he would be likely capable of interfering and greatly weakening its effectiveness. Even worse for John, just being near the Doctor will be weaken him as he has to constantly push back against this aura.
Since killing the Doctor is far from being a certainty, eventually John could try using the Wishing Matches or Dream's Sand to permanently erase the Doctor from existence, similar to how he removed Swamp Thing's powers. Both items are potent reality warpers in their own right, after all, and on a conceptual level of power.
The only problem is..... it's been tried before. The Doctor has repeatedly survived attempts to erase him from existence, having survived sticking his hand in the Crack of Time that can unwrite timelines, the Land of Fiction attempting to write him out of the plot on a conceptual level, and a literal Conceptual Bomb the Master used to try and wish the Doctor and the TARDIS out of existence. Though he cannot fully mitigate the effects, the TARDIS spread out the damage of the bomb along its entire timeline to buy time. In one future, the Curator effortlessly shrugged off being cast into the Void, which destroys on an ontological level. The Time Lord's triple helix of Rassilon also prevents one from being affected by reality altering, his biodata being woven into the Time Vortex granting him a much higher layer of reality. Since his soul is stitched onto one of the highest levels of creation and his mind is in touch with the deepest level of quintessence, John's magic would have to match that level of transcendence, which is debatable at best as shown in stats. Finally, even if the Doctor was fully erased, his future and past selves would still exist for a time and attempt to undo the action or take John down with them.
This isn't to say that these items of John's couldn't simply kill the Doctor if timed it right, but the Doctor's nature makes him beyond the ability to erase.
Can the Doctor Erase Constantine?
With Chronon energy, time travel, the D-Mat, Nevermore, Time Gun, and the Moment, the Doctor has an abundance of tools that can completely erase a target from existence. Should the Doctor land a hit, could any of these options spell final doom for Constantine?
Such methods would provide immense danger for Constantine; while his physical regeneration is extremely impressive, it is unfortunately only physical, and has never been shown recovering from complete temporal erasure. His encounter with the Between had him only able to temporarily hold off being erased by unleashing a mental attack with Nightmare Nurse to push the Between's consciousness back, which shows only mental magic rather than erasure resistance. Even then, it was only temporary. Furthermore, potent as John's regeneration is, along with his knack for bullshitting his way out of the afterlife, it is not something he can do repeatedly. As both his encounter with lung cancer and Dead in America show, past a certain point John's regeneration cannot cure all his problems, and his eventual damnation is not something he can just leave and return from ad infinitum.
With the D-Mat Gun and the Moment, the Doctor could just press a button and wipe Constantine from existence altogether. With the D-Mat Gun, the problem lies in both hitting Constantine with it and dealing with his soul remaining afterwards. As noted in the Book of the War, the D-Mat Gun erases everything except the soul, and Constantine has survived existing as just a spirit on more than one occasion. However, this would still be a massive handicap to John. All of John's out of body experiences were temporary and there is no evidence to suggest that he can indefinitely survive as just a spirit. Again, looking at Dead in America, John could only stave off damnation temporarily by reanimating his body, and in the Hellblazer series, when Nergal killed him, he returned his soul to his body before confronting him, implying that the loss of his body is not some small handicap.
With the Moment, there is no such defence; it will completely rewrite the meta-structure of history itself and does not require a line of sight on the target, only the decision to use it. This attack, if successful, would destroy John completely. Besides, the Moment was capable of wiping out every Dalek, despite said Daleks having been made immune to the D-Mat's existence erasure, so the weapon can bypass resistances, which is assuming John actually has one.
Soul Manipulation
The ontology of souls is a somewhat nebulous topic in both franchises. The closest definition found for DC souls was Doom Patrol's statement of a soul being composed of seven archetypes, so John's ability to affect souls potentially extends to the Collective Unconscious in the DC cosmology, which would be consistent; drawing power from a collection of souls allowed him to fool Darkseid's divine senses, who was able to perceive Heaven itself from within the Orrery of Worlds. Some statements place the Bleed as the substance of life, others the M-Field of the Red that forms life from an ever increasing scale of fields.
Within Doctor Who, souls are tied to biodata and the archetypes of the mind, which both exist within the Time Vortex. The mind's ability to perceive allows it to decide what is real, extending even to the Void, and is what allowed the Time Lords to order the transcendental realms. As the tampering of biodata is what caused Anonymity to be formed, biodata exists on a comparable existence level to apophatic space, which defies classification even beyond the Void. While obviously not an excuse for the no limits fallacy, destroying biodata is noted as a "philosophical impossibility".
John will immediately run into trouble if he attempts to remove the Doctor's soul through exorcism, as he has resisted such attempts before. As for affecting the Doctor, tampering with his soul would arguably be a danger to Constantine, for it risks bringing the Valeyard out; with destroying his soul, the only time the Doctor's biodata has been made vulnerable is during regeneration, specifically when the Eye of Harmony had simultaneously opened a rift into the Time Vortex itself, the source of his biodata, and that only allowed someone to subtly affect it, nor destroy it. This wouldn't prevent John from being able to hurt the Doctor's soul, but permanently damaging or destroying it is something he cannot likely accomplish. It is also worth noting that its nature as Time Lord "science" would make it something Constantine would not immediately understand. Though John is versed in quantum magic, biodata theory is explicitly beyond quantum theory in its ontological nature. Even if that wasn't the case, the TARDIS has healed the Doctor of biodata viruses in the past.
But what of his mind? The Doctor's mind is synonymous with his soul and memory, so his archetypal essence could be destroyed if not his biodata. Does John have the ability to get past his defences though? Not only can the Doctor match John's mind hax, Artron energy makes one highly resistant to psychic power, which is capable of affecting conceptual realms like the Land of Fiction and beings of the Void itself as seen with Sunyata and The Trickster. The TARDIS' telepathic connection to the Doctor allowing him to channel infinite amounts of Artron power, coupled with his ability to restore his mental form from almost complete void, prevents John from being able to do this without having previously completely incapacitated both the Doctor and all his support, which as een is not going to happen.
So, if John cannot destroy the Doctor's soul, can the Doctor destroy John's? The issue is whether he can target it specifically. The Doctor has very few tools or abilities on hand that specifically target one's biodata, and while the TARDIS time travels through biodata manipulation, he has never used it to target another's. On the other hand, souls in DC are made up of archetypes and the life substance of both the Bleed and M-Field, so would the Doctor figure this out and look to interfere? It's debatable; the Doctor could certainly deduce it, but he would not feel the need to even look until well within the fight, as targeting souls is something he almost never does, and even then, it is when dealing with non-physical entities that cannot be harmed physically to begin with. Given that he has directly interacted with conceptual mathematics and repeatedly broken minds with his though, it is within his ability.
This would change though if the Doctor destroyed John's physical body, which given his greater power and arsenal would be highly likely. John would be forced to attack the Doctor as a spirit, which obviously raises the question of whether the Doctor could perceive him. Which is answered with Yes, given his ability to see concepts, biodata, astral data ghosts, and the Second Aether. And given his ability to interact with non-physical entities, he could certainly contain Constantine's soul, even if you want to argue that Doom Patrol's reference to the soul containing the seven archetypes makes his soul a conceptual entity, which is nothing new to the Doctor. Remember, the first Time Lords literally ripped out a portion of their own souls and cast them into oblivion, so the Doctor is certainly capable of replicating such a feat with Constantine.
Can he destroy John's soul though? The Psilent Songbox has worked on archetypal beings like the Cyclors before, banishing them to a higher Nirvana, and the Time Vortex contains the Dreamtime of the World Tree and the archetypes of reality, which is where the Doctor battled the Timewyrm, who represents universal principles of the Vortex, and could have killed her. With it explicitly stated that falling into the Eye of Harmony would destroy his soul, which is his ontological biodata and these archetypes, the Doctor does have a method to permanently destroy John's soul.
Super Forms
Between the Blackmare Curse and the Time Vortex, both Constantine and the Doctor have a respective super-form that massively boosts their power at the risk of dying or being consumed from overuse, with the added bonus that their power either comes from or matches those of higher mental planes (The Astral Plane within the Time Vortex and the Collective Unconscious respectively). Should either be desperate enough to go all out, would these forms be game-changers?
Support
With Platonic warping Shade and the immortal Swamp Thing, John has some serious firepower backing him up. If the Doctor's own support cannot match them, the Doctor will be facing a war on multiple fronts. But the same can be said for John facing the Doctor's support. Ultimately, who will have any support to fall back on by the end of the battle?
Starting with the quickest conclusion, the Demon Constantine will not be much use as an asset for John, given his lack of showings of versatility. Even if we assumed he had access to all of John's knowledge and magic, which is dubious seeing as John only made him as a sacrificial offering from all the parts of himself he didn't want, the Doctor has all his other incarnations who have the same abilities and tech he has. Given that the Doctor has taken all categories so far, his other incarnations will have no trouble dispatching the Demon. This extends to his materialized psyches, which are little more than gremlins compared to the Doctors.
With John's angelic and demonic summons, it's honestly less of a factor than you may think. The only times John has summoned an angel or a demon was to briefly use them as a scare tactic or to pick a lock rather than actual support. This makes sense given his relationship with both Heaven and Hell, so it is unlikely either side would actually offer him much help beyond that.
With Shade and Swamp Thing, John's chances increase massively. Shade's potent reality warping and Swamp Thing's environmental control paired with his immortality through the Green are going to be a nightmare to put down permanently. However, the Doctor has the advantage of the Moment. The Moment can rewrite reality on every level of existence up to and beyond the apophatic nature of Anonymity and potentially end the War in Heaven that threatened even the Real World. It is pointless to argue who has the most versatile arsenal if the Moment can just blink you out of existence. So we must simply ask whether Swamp Thing and Shade could actually survive such an attack long enough to put a plan into motion.
And overall, the answer is no. Neither Shade or Swamp Thing have affected all of creation the way the Moment has, save for when the World Tree was providing a massive amp to his power, which means Swamp Thing cannot just run and hide in a secluded dimension and surprise attack, nor can Shade. Also, Shade's power to warp Platonic angels is impressive, but only up to the Sphere of the Gods, and we've never seen him scale higher.
Despite his resistances, Swamp Thing is consistently vulnerable to mental manipulation, whether through telepathy, mental sealing, or sleep inducement, and has been affected by temporal attacks despite his own ability to time travel. This extends to existence erasure, as if Swamp Thing cannot transfer his consciousness elsewhere in time, erasing it will end his involvement immediately. This wouldn't have to extend to destroying all of the Green unless Swamp Thing had already linked his consciousness throughout the realm, as he has been cut off from the Green before and rendered powerless.
The more stealthy of the Doctor's allies in the Weeping Angel and Shayde are more complicated. Power wise, neither can compare to Shade and Swamp Thing. Abilities wise, both are notoriously difficult to permanently destroy, Shayde in particular requiring conceptual entities to put him down. Though Shade can alter platonic entities, Shayde's teleportation and time travel and the Angel's BFR will make it difficult to land the blow at first. Swamp Thing and the Weeping Angel can duplicate themselves infinitely, which could turn into one hell of a war of attrition, particularly with the Angel's ability to possess anyone who looks at it, even robots.
Shade does possess a physical body and has never shown proper resistance to telepathy, so the Weeping Angel could potentially possess him long enough to incapacitate him for the Moment to deal with. Weeping Angels are much faster than Shade, so he would trouble getting an opportunity to strike before the Angel sent him back in time and empower itself on his energies. While Shade could just pop right back, the Angel could just tag him again and again before he had the chance to unravel his opponent. However, given that Shade has built angel summoning and sealing devices in the past, he could do the same easily for a Weeping Angel and erase it from existence.
But by the time Shade and Swamp Thing stop them, the other Doctors will have certainly concocted a plan to seal him away for good, as their ability to relay information to their past selves will give themselves hundreds of years to come up with a solution. That or the Then And The Now and the Moment would have just erased them from existence. This is precisely how the Doctors saved Gallifrey, implementing their plan even while avoiding bombardment from a million Dalek ships. If they can come up with plans to seal away Elder Gods and Sutekh, Shade will be no different. Remember, the Doctor can survive reality warping transmutation and existence erasure, as can the TARDIS, so Shade cannot just blink them out of existence. Shade also bears some similarities to Nobody No-one, an other-dimensional reality warper the Doctor has beaten in the past despite Nobody working under completely different rules of reality.
John's allies will obviously put up a tremendous fight and likely take down Shayde and the Angel along the way, but with the numbers advantage of all the Doctors each possessing the God of the Fourth's power and the sheer apocalypticforce of the Moment, they are ultimately outmatched and overwhelmed.
Who can plan for all this?
Both have outwitted demons and gods older than conventional time; both are expert manipulators more than willing to sacrifice others when necessary, and both have undone their own deaths on more than one occasion. Both also have vessels that exist outside of time, allowing all the time they need to devise some scheme. Couldn't both just create a plan of attack in the long term, sizing each other up and laying plans within plans? So then, what are the deciding factors? It is ultimately a case of who can come up with a plan first, and whether that plan involves factors the other cannot predict.
Constantine's greatest feats often involve his intelligence, frequently fooling entities far older and more powerful than himself into making errors or giving him what he needs. However, a lot of these plans are ultimately John responding to threats coming after him, showcasing quick thinking and improvisation. There's also the fact that Constantine's plans are often cons. Incredibly clever and daring cons, but cons nonetheless, mainly involving tricking overconfident enemies into lowering their guard or intimidating them into obeying. This is obviously not a detriment to John's ability, but he does lack long-term planning feats. However, he did state to the Presence that, given enough time, he could unite all of Hell under his leadership and make war against Heaven. Whether this was just John playing another con or whether he believed he actually could is up for debate, but given how the Presence actually responded to the threat, the latter could very well have been true.
The Doctor is similar in the sense that he is often thrust head first into danger and has to work his way out of them. However, one thing the Doctor has shown far more often than Constantine is his ability to play the long game. When the Master captured the aged Doctor and took over the planet, the Doctor instantly devised a year long plan to get Martha to rejuvenate him while secretly integrating with Earth's psychic network. When trapped in his confession dial, he was prepared to spend four and a half billion years dying and reviving to break down a wall separating him from escape. When imprisoned and completely immobilized, he spent sixty years subtly feeding binary code to a robot through nothing but eye movement. And with his past incarnations, the Doctor can relay information centuries back into his own personal timeline to give him hundreds of years to prepare for threats. This extends to boostrap paradoxes, where the Doctor's own future self has left instructions and hints for him to pick up with no original source of information. This is a tactic that the Doctor has used quite a few times to get himself out of danger.
But surely with Constantine's time travel abilities and the House of Mystery, he could do the same thing right back and thus they'd just cancel out. And yes, while Constantine has never been shown using time travel tactics and paradoxes, that isn't to say he couldn't by any means. Unfortunately, however capable Constantine may be in replicating such a tactic, he simply lacks comparable experience to the Doctor's frequent usage of it. And even if he did, the Doctor's centuries of fighting in the Time War against an enemy just as capable of time manipulation and paradoxes makes him far more capable of countering such a tactic. The Doctor was considered a key factor in a war where soldiers were being resurrected hundreds of times per day and civilizations were erased across all of history as mere side effects of the war's effects on history, paradoxes and timelines appearing and vanishing every second. Even being caught in bootstrap paradoxes are not enough to guarantee a win, as the Doctor has countered them.
Constantine's his track record of victories often relies on him being the smartest person in the room or being one step ahead of foes with an ability or information they don't possess. The Doctor obviously has done this as well, but has frequently gone up against those holding all the advantages, like his defeat of the Master when he was both a fugitive and without his TARDIS, his killing of Nobody-Noone despite having mere days before he was erased from existence due to the death of his past self, and fighting a mental war with both the Valeyard and Zagreus from within when both possessed all his intelligence and none of his restraint. Simply put, John is certainly cunning and secrecy incarnate, but against the Doctor's far superior track record, the Hellblazer's fire casts a rather small shadow. Not including the Doctor's infinitely superior precognition, bootstrap paradoxes, and future incarnations granting him far more opportunities to get the jump on Constantine.
There is the argument that John's proclivity for ruthlessness and sacrificing his enemies gives him an advantage in being more pragmatic and less vulnerable to hesitation. However, not only does the Doctor have plenty of experience against such foes, he can be just as ruthless and cold when necssary. The War and Seventh Doctors especially were willing to sacrifice innocents.
The Doctor takes the edge in Intelligence and Experience.
Constantine can take a lot of punishment before going down, and has survived plenty of violent encounters with both skill and a proclivity to fight dirty. The Doctor is more of a reluctant fighter, and has been downed by normal attacks in the past. However, on average he is a far superior fighter, having explicitly mastered several martial arts styles while John hasn't. He is also more versed in wielding a greater variety of weapons, particularly swords and guns, with far greater skill than John has ever performed, and his knowledge of pressure points enables him to instantly paralyse John should he get the opportunity. Besides, the Doctor is hardly naive regarding opponents who fight dirty and will respond in kind when needing to. While John certainly has higher pain tolerance overall,the Doctor can just shut off his pain receptors altogether, so neither can rely on physical torture.
The Doctor takes Skill.
John Constantine
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| "I can save you. If it takes the last drop of your blood, I'll drive your demons away. I'll kick them in the bollocks and spit on them when they're down, and then I'll be gone back into the darkness, leaving only a nod and a wink, and a wisecrack." |
Advantages:
- More ruthless on average, so could get a headstart on the Doctor
- Less reliant on equipment at first......
- Arguably a better sealer
- Superior illusions
- Superior teleportation without external aid makes sealing him almost impossible
- Superior physical regeneration and endurance
- Can arguably match in speed
- Just as crafty and manipulative
- Can resist many of the Doctor's hax
- Can potentially disable many of the Doctor's weapons.
- Slightly better in terms in of soul manipulation.....
- Is the best part of Legends of Tomorrow, don't lie.
- Curbstomped in Skill, Experience, and Intelligence
- ....but this won't matter the moment God of the Fourth comes into play
- Far less quantifiable and reliable feats of speed
- Far weaker
- Has no method of predicting the Doctor
- Outnumbered and outmatched when factoring in support options
- Has no proper defence against existence erasure
- Most of his hax will be resisted
- Could have his magic negated through multiple methods
- Less versatile arsenal overall
- Will immediately have his entire personality, history, and abilities be made known to the Doctor
- Far less potent reality warping and has less experience using it
- The TARDIS is far superior to the House of Mystery in every regard
- .........but it ultimately can't do much.
- Is a real bastard
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| "No, not a man, not a human being. I am a complex space-time event. I am Lord President of Gallifrey, the traveller from beyond time. I am the Sandman, the Oncoming Storm! I am the Ka Faraq Gatri, the Destroyer of Worlds! And sometimes, only sometimes, I am your worst nightmare. I am the Doctor, and I take care of my friends." |
Advantages:
- Far more experienced and skilled
- Leagues greater power
- Far greater combat skill
- Infinitely superior precognition will make it very hard for Constantine to get the drop on him
- Just as manipulative and ruthless as Constantine when pushed
- Can resist most of John's hacks
- Has far more consistent and quantifiable displays of speed
- Far more versatile and potent arsenal
- Has far more reality warping weapons and counters to said abilities
- Magic Resistance and Amaranth will negate much of Constantine's magic
- Psilent Songbox could potentially immediately nullify Constantine's magic completely
- Time hax and weaponry is something Constantine has little experience countering
- TARDIS is ultimately superior to the
ripoffHouse of Mystery - Has experience fighting similar foes like the Master
- Has allies that actually like him
- Less willing to resort to his powers, so could be put on the back foot
- Inferior physical regeneration, especially with the added vulnerability
- Swamp Thing will be very hard to permanently put down
- More reliant on equipment that can be damaged
- Less experienced with actively using his Probability Manipulation than Constantine does with Wave Synchronicity
- Not as good at creating illusions
- Possibly inferior in terms of stealth
- Overall inferior healing options
- Less likely to resort to Soul manipulation.
- Will someone get 15 to stop crying!
Thus, with everything accounted for, who will win? Well, it’s pretty obvious. While Constantine can likely match the Doctor in speed and is intelligent enough to keep pace with the Doctor in a battle of wits, the Doctor takes the edge everywhere else. The Doctor is a much better fighter so he wins a straight up fist-fight, he is far more experienced, he will always be several steps ahead of John with his precognition while being too unpredictable for John to get the drop on, he has equivalent base abilities and equipment that cancel out John’s, his absurd amount of resistances prevent John from having any sure-fire method of ending the fight immediately, and he has access to far more game-ending weapons than Constantine does that can warp reality far more consistently than anything John has shown.
The Doctor taking all relevant categories does in no way make this an easy victory for him. John's ruthlessness, insane magic versatility, and his own probability warping make him a nightmare to put down and outwit properly; John is simply fighting an uphill battle against someone who is just as relentless, far more intelligent, and infinitely more capable of just blinking John out of existence.
In many ways, the Doctor was designed to win, for he is the embodiment of optimism and hope even in the darkest times, the one who has walked through the abyss and chosen to climb out every time. Constantine is the one who leapt in and chose to stay because he thought he couldn't do anything else.
The Doctor takes all important categories, and thus, he will be the winner of this match.
The WINNER is The Doctor
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- Has a device that protects from reality altering psychic waves - the battle ranskov ov kolos : u/Mohammedamine9
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- The Witness (Destiny) vs The Time Lords (spin-offs) | SpaceBattles
- a life crystal crown that could take energy and blast it out, can kill people within a 70 feets radius - Dark Gallifrey: Missy Part 1 : u/Mohammedamine9
- The doctor's plan to trap a part of the toymaker - matryushka : u/Mohammedamine9
- Using his telepathy to invade someone's mind to torture him - caerdroia : u/Mohammedamine9
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- Death Battle Predictions: Simon the Digger VS Kyle Rayner (2025) – G1 Death Battle Fan Blogs
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- The Snowflake is a FRAUD - Imgur
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- Doctor Who EU misc. feats and stuff (continued) | FanVerse
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- Doctor Who EU misc. feats and stuff (part 5) | FanVerse
- Doctor Who EU misc. feats and stuff (Part 7) | FanVerse
- Doctor Who EU misc. feats and stuff (part 6) | FanVerse
- (Doctor Who) TARDIS Tractor beam | FanVerse
- The books of magic : Gaiman, Neil : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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- Time Lord Biology and Training
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- User:ByAsura/Time Lord Sandbox-RX8 | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
- John Constantine Respect Thread! - Gen. Discussion - Comic Vine
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- Respect Phantom Stranger (n52) : r/respectthreads
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- Saul's VS blog: SCP-173 VS Weeping Angels (SCP VS Doctor Who)
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- Plot manipulation resistance- the legend of the cybermen : u/Mohammedamine9
- Sherlock Holmes can't use his deductions trick on the doctor- all-consuming fire : u/Mohammedamine9
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- Respect the Fifth Doctor (Doctor Who) : r/respectthreads
- 5th Doctor - Watcher Communicates : r/RTvideos
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Reddit Megapost
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- The doctor who mega thread part 10: misc : r/DeathBattleMatchups
- Swamp Thing vs Man-Thing (DC vs Marvel)
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- The Time Lords (Doctor who) Vs Dragonball Verse | Page 2 | SpaceBattles
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- J.M. DeMatteis Cosmology Revision | VS Battles Wiki Forum
- Why was Pralaya upgraded to High 1-A+ ? | VS Battles Wiki Forum
- DC/Vertigo: Profiles Clean-Up | VS Battles Wiki Forum
- Hellblazer #287 – The Art of Simon Bisley
- Context to Zatanna VS Maha Pralaya: Justice League Dark - Google Docs
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- Respect Shade, The Changing Man (DC/Vertigo, Earth-85) : r/respectthreads
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